Deal reached on avoiding government shutdown

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is getting his butt handed to him here. This is even worse than I expected but I guess the Democrats on the committee really had the upper hand.



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    Trump's base is going to go ballistic.
     
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    What's funny is that he's about to start his El Paso rally and the rug has just been pulled out from under him on the wall.
     
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    The link has a paywall

    But the reaction of the two libs who posted so far is typical of liberals in general

    The danger at our border means nothing to them

    They just want to gloat over a setback for trump
     
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    Here is CNBC's version. Fox is also reporting it but has less detail on the numbers.

    There's been a lot of gloating! "Setback" is Trump's middle name these days.
     
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    For liberals everything is about trump

    Dems with your blessing are hurting the country
     
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    He couldn't get it even when he had both houses. Americans don't want the wall, Congress doesn't want it.
     
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    Only the Border Patrol and Homeland Security want what they requested. The haters don't want to make their jobs easier.
     
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    Why is it a setback? Every foot of the wall is a plus. This is a give and take deal and Trump is holding the face cards.
     
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    Democrats want to reduce the number of aliens that can be detained at the border

    Thats insane

    I dont blame trump for the spineless republican senators who are caving

    If he chooses to veto the bill I’m with him 100%
     
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    See post #9
     
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    The haters want to destroy America
     
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    And only for political gain.
     
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    Trumps fault that he lost the shutdown battle.
     
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    It was a spectacular loss. He had to back off the idea of Mexico paying for the wall and then lost twice to the Democrats on the funding showdown. Inspector Clouseau could have done a better job of it.
     
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    I agree with you but this thing is not moving and once the door is opened Trump gains some flexibility. I don't look at this as a win or a loss but something is getting done. Think ahead to the clown car full of lefties running for president. Trump will have video to show wall construction split screen to the lefties who want open borders and dead newborn babies.
     
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    Now, Trump will own Shutdown II if he doesn't go along with the deal.
     
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    No

    Its mcconnell snd cornyns fault

    They are washington swamp rats with no fixed principles
     
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    I think we are losing the border battle

    Democrats want to flood America with illegals and they are succeeding
     
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    Illegal immigration has been declining steadily since 2007. What is being done now to control illegal immigration is obviously working.
     
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    You are mistaken

    There are no reliable numbers about how many illegals are crossing into the US from mexico

    But as long as its not zero then we are in trouble

    The mobs of aliens at the southern border are a warning that we cannot ignore
     
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    American's want the wall, polls are biased because they ask if you approve of a wall along the entire border and no one including Trump is asking for that.
     
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    He initially said he wanted a wall along the entire border (in an interview with Univision) then later gave a figure of 1,000 miles (3rd primary debate) varying from 30 to 50 feet high and that it would be made of hardened concrete and rebar. Estimates for this are up to 70 billion dollars.

    So most Americans rightly concluded he had no idea what he was talking about and are opposed to the wall.
     
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    Also he said Mexico was going to pay for it. Americans might just be opposed on the basis of that bait 'n switch.
     
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    If trump gave no details when lib reporters were badgering him you would say he was hiding something

    But if he gives specific details to a work in progess and later ammends the plan you attack him for that also
     
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    Sure, you can look at it that way. Trump lost ~80% of the funding he asked for...while democrats are caving for 1,000,000,000% more than what they said they would give him. Remember Pelosi saying she wouldn't even offer $1 towards the wall? But hey, those numbers are close right?
     

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