Deal reached on avoiding government shutdown

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  1. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is going to pay for the wall is more than a little detail. He amended the plan, repeatedly, because as usual he hadn't thought it through, found no support or money for the project, and had no idea what he was talking about.
     
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    Politicians say a lot of things on the campaign trail. Trump more than most is trying to full fill his promises. His view changed as the reality of the situation became more clear. He changed the type of wall because after taking office he was able to consult with experts who preferred a wall that border patrol could see through. His supporters never expected Mexico to write a check and know his hands are tied because he depends on Congress to write any law as to how to pay for it. I wish he would cut foreign aid to those countries where the illegals come from, then they won't assist them in making their way to our border. But, no matter what, until illegals suffer some consequence that will make them think twice about illegally crossing our border, nothing will really work.
     
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    The post of yours that I responded to said nothing about who pays for the wall

    So my point stands

    You are a trump hater based on his personality and will attack him no matter what he does
     
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    You are pissing in the wind

    Partisan trump haters do not care about the reasons for a wall

    They only care that it is a trump proposal and they hate trump
     
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    I said nothing about his personality. But since you mention it - yeah he's a racist and misogynist bully.

    But mostly I don't like him because he's incompetent.
     
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    Its obvious that trump rubs you the wrong way

    So you want to punish trump supporters and America in general by leaving the border with mexico undefended
     
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    You repeatedly post falsehoods. The border is defended.
     
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    Like this falsehood?
     
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    Its not defended enough to keep America safe and free of illegal aliens
     
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    Thats just partisan liberal emotion on display with no rational thought driving it
     
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    55 miles of fence.


    That is laughable.


    Trump got crushed
     
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    I am glad you agree that 55 miles is not enough

    Congress is laying down on the job
     
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    Trump I'd a lousy negotiator. Lol
     
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    Tell superbad

    On anther thread is is under the mistaken impression that democrats want border security

    When in fact the want none
     
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    Trump folded like a cheap suit
     
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    Yup and already his handlers are on him: "Any Republican that supports this garbage compromise, you will have to explain," --Sean Hannity.

    Sad.
     
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    If he didnt agree you would attack him over the shutdown

    But he did agree which avoided the shutdown and you attack him for that instead

    So you are not fooling anyone
     
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    The worst. Democrats had already offered 1.3 billion for border security in early January so with all his bluster and the shutdown he only got 700 million more.
     
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    Little math update here. They agreed on 1.375 billion and Democrats offered 1.3 billion in January. So he only got 75 million more that the Democrats offered in January.

    Loser!
     
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    Giving him 55 miles out of 2000 miles he demands practically guarantees another shut-down, but if he gets 55 miles in 2 years, then obviously the wall will be a broken promise, just like the "mexico will pay for it" part.
     
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    No, it peaked in the 1980s, and quickly dropped to about a quarter since then, and it has maintained the 25% of the peak for a long time.

    Don't buy into Trumps "worse than ever before" rhetoric. Practically nothing he says is accurate or factual.
     
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    There are no reliable numbers for that

    But uber leftwing Gallop did a poll in Latin America and found 42 million shoeless hispanics who want to move here
     
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    We were never going to win the border battle. To democrats, these aren't illegals, they are a new source of voters to be exploited. They will migrate to large sanctuary cities where their needs will be provided for and they can then march and bitch for higher wages. I think Trump should take what he can get and use the military to supplement as much as he can. I would love to see CA tear down their border wall and donate all that fine material to the rest of us who understand walls work.
    This map says it all.
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    I am just guessing

    but knowing how spineless senate republicans are I think trump can no loner count on them

    That was his problem during the shutdown and it would be his problem if he declares a national emergency
     
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    You are correct which is why I say Trump should take everything he can get from either party. Small victories are great anytime you can get them, His appointing dozens and dozens of judges is a LONG term win that will have a far greater impact on illegals than anything done on the border and the lefties are not even aware that is going on while they complain about Melania's choice of shows. $$ new judges just last week alone. BTW, where is RBG?
     

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