Question for "Medicare for all" supporters... Does that include illegal aliens?

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  1. Vegas giants

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    You could not round up 11 million people if we dedicated the entire military to it for a decade
     
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    Worth noting that rounding up and deporting people is not something that civilized nations engage in however BLOTUS supporters don't seem to care.
     
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    What is your solution?
     
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    What is your very complex solution?
     
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    I asked you a question.
     
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    Nope...not REQUIRED at all. People are free to make statements, ask questions, offer opinions, etc. but no one is REQUIRED to do so. The person you replied to clearly stated they didn’t have an answer to resolve the issue. Why is that not a good enough response? You do realize an opinion posted on a message forum isn’t going to actually resolve any issues anyway, right?
     
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    And why did they do this?
     
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    What is the name of the forum? Political something and something?
     
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    Must have been six years ago now.. They did it to get rid of what they call "overstayers".. Workers who no longer had a sponsor or a job and had overstayed their visas.

    They do a small round up every year, but 6 years ago it was a couple of million.
     
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    I do not think Medicare for all should be given to illegals who aren't supposed to be here in the first place. We should be bringing in high-skilled immigrants who can contribute to our programs, not drain them. Medicare for all doesn't have to be a government takeover of healthcare. Many developed countries have a basic tax-funded government insurance that tries to be cost effective and affordably covers most medical conditions. We can allow private insurance if you want anything fancy beyond that. We can have public hospitals that try to be cost effective, and allow private hospitals and research hospitals too.
     
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    It's Political Opinions & Beliefs...notice the word 'required' is nowhere to be found in the forum name.
     
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    I didn’t ask you when, I asked you why.
     
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    Then you are just talking to hear yourself talk. And being pedantic.
     
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    In other words you agree no one is REQUIRED to offer an opinion on this or ANY other forum, but just not willing to admit it.
     
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    We are not responsible in any way for how dysfunctional Central or South America, or the Mid East is now, was in the past, or will be in the future. Most of them have always been dysfunctional. In the case of countries like Venezuela they were actually doing fine, until leftists took over and destroyed them.
     
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    Your pedantics are becoming tiresome. You are required to offer an opinion in order to participate in the discussion in any meaningful way. Otherwise you are just talking to hear yourself talk, or worse, trolling. I shouldnt have to explain this to you.
     
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    As your rules for how others should post are becoming tiresome. The person you replied to in fact did offer an opinion but you didn't like it and he replied that he didn't have an answer to resolve the issue. So, it wasn't like he never offered up an opinion. Seems you were the one being pedantic.
     
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    Not “my rules,” but rather a self-obviating fact to any reasonable, rational person.
     
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    Again...he offered an opinion.
     
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    No. The poster in question ducked the very simple question I posed in the OP by posting a tangential red herring. When challenged on this by me he replied he did not have an answer. Hence, my subsequent interrogatory.

    He seems to have disappeared anyway and we have successfully taken this thread far enough off topic. Why don’t you bring us back around by actually addressing the question I posed in the OP...

    Looking forward to hearing your opinion on the matter.
     
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    That's your opinion. He offered up his opinion...just because you didn't like his opinion doesn't mean he didn't offer one. Can't say I blame him for ignoring you.

    I don't support a Medicare for all system
     
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    An opinion offered as a means of ducking the topic is nothing but a logical fallacy. When pressed to actually address the topic, he conceded ded the point by stating he “didn’t have an answer.”

    That was not the question. Here we go again... :rock_slayer:
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    From the OP...
    "But I'd like to hear from forum members who support this latest proposed tyranny if this "all" includes the millions of illegal aliens who are not even supposed to be present in the country or if "all" refers to just citizens, legal permanent residents, and others duly authorized to be residing in the United States."

    From the title of the thread...
    Question for "Medicare for all" supporters... Does that include illegal aliens?

    So....based on what YOU posted in the OP and the thread title, YOU wanted to hear from members who SUPPORT Medicare for all. Not sure why you're struggling to understand why I didn't go beyond telling you I don't support Medicare for all.
     
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    So you admit you do not qualify to respond to the topic. Why are you here? Oh that’s right.. to hear yourself talk. :roll:
     
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    Um...well...again...based on what YOU wrote in the title and OP...you want to hear from people who support and defend Medicare for all. Again....I. Do. Not. Support. Medicare. For. All.
    I have and will respond to those who are misinformed.
     

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