Trump to declare National emergency for Wall

Your post serves an an example of how difficult and complex it is simply finding a viable solution to the immigration issue & the Dreamer issue. I agree with your first statement, but feel uncomfortable with your second. If a fair way can be found, I would agree with your third statement. I find your fourth sentence not helpful, but simply a blame game against those you've chosen to consider "the enemy." Blaming someone never solves any problem, but can go a long way in blocking solutions. Ultimately, any true solution will require the combined efforts of those on both sides of the issue, compromising toward a middle, common ground. Blaming liberals for everything is a waste of time, and inaccurate, since conservatives have had total control of the Congress between 2014 and 2016, and total control of all three branches of our government for all of 2017, and yet did NOTHING toward finding or devising an answer to this immigration issue. Democrats didn't have the power to stop Republicans during those three years, so you can't blame liberals here. Keep in mind, liberals don't have the power to resolve the immigration issues alone. They must work with conservatives to find solutions. So blame toward either side is simply a waste of time.

 

Trump's wall costs ~25 Billion to build and ~25 Billion every seven years to maintain.

Trump's unconstitutional move secures himself about 8 Billion.

In other words, partial funding...

 

Your links to show that it would take 25 billion to finish what was already started.

There is nothing unconstitutional about this stick to fake outrage/hate crime threads .

 

Plenty unconstitutional about this power grab. Just ask Trump:

And here's one link that trump's wall costs ~25 billion: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tru...ill-actually-cost-according-to-a-statistician

 

You do know its her estimate right?
Trump made the comments on Fox News' "Fox and Friends" in November 2014 when asked about executive actions by then-President Barack Obama that would halt deportations for the undocumented parents of children born in the United States.

What does that have to do with building a wall?

 

Did you want me to go to an alternate timeline where the wall has already been built and the cost evaluated by the CBO?

 

Sure want me to post what the CBO thought of the ACA and then the reality of it?

 

Which is just not true.

 

I'm not opposed to the President having the power to declare a national emergency. I'm opposed to the clear abuse of that power for selfish political reasons. Trump's border emergency falls into that latter category.

 

Something that would be more relevant would be an analysis of every trump construction project estimate compared against the actual cost.

Please let me know when you've completed the analysis.

 

Which part?

 

I think you are thinking of this
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/18/us/politics/senate-democrats-border-wall-cost-trump.html

Catchy headline eh?

Oh wait..
The report, which was prepared by the Democratic staff of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, also found that the construction of a wall would require taking hundreds of acres of private land at a cost of millions to taxpayers and would divert money from crucial mobile video surveillance technology.

Not the whole staff just the D's.. the ones that dont want the wall to begin with...

 

Please post a transcript of his total statement and I will comment.

As an attorney, surely you know context and exact wording are important......

 

"I’m disappointed with both the massive, bloated, secretive bill that just passed and with the president’s intention to declare an emergency to build a wall," Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky tweeted Thursday, ahead of Trump's expected announcement. "Extraconstitutional executive actions are wrong, no matter which party does them."

I, too, want stronger border security, including a wall in some areas. But how we do things matters. Over 1,000 pages dropped in the middle of the night and extraconstitutional executive actions are wrong, no matter which party does them.

— Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) February 14, 2019​

"I generally don't think it's a good idea," said Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida yesterday.

And Sen. Susan Collins of Maine also tweeted a statement, calling the decision "a mistake on the part of the President" and "just not good policy."​

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/government-shutdown-february-2019/index.html

 

That's already done and in Trump's proposal where Homeland Security said walls were needed in 10 locations. 5.7 billion.

 

I asked a couple questions MrTLegal. They are relative to the action the President took and the position you are attempting to hold.

So, I'll ask again.

Why do you think the President of the United States is granted the authority to declare a National Emergency? Why have that power at all?

And what was the purpose of the National Emergencies Act of 1976?​

 

Saves the US 40 billion a year in spending on illegal migrants. Sounds like a deal to me.

 

Who is abusing statutes? Can you cite the statues you're claiming are being abused?

 

Correct. He provided those details.

Next.

 

There is no emergency. This is the tyrant abusing his powers to get what he wants in spite of Congress and the majority will of the American people. He is walking over the Constitution with this nonsense.

 

Bull f**king sh**. I'd like to see a single instance of a president failing to get a spending bill passed and then resorting to a national emergency as an end around to our government process. Go ahead, I'll wait.

 

Follow me here.

Obama used an executive declaration to take unilateral steps on immigration.

Trump used an executive declaration to take unilateral steps on immigration.

 

You will let me know if the Supreme Court agrees when they issue a ruling in ~2 years, won't you?

 

When someone has finished punishing some poor intern by making them transcribe every word from that moron's stream of conscious rant, I will let you know.

 

Rand should run as opposition in 2020. He'd have my vote.​