Isn't declaring a national emergency the same as declaring martial law?

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  1. vman12

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    Of course it is. It's good for everyone. Obviously. Best economy ever for minorities and women.
     
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    How high do you want it? How high do the drug bags go when tossed over by the catapults? Are you going to destroy the recent new walls put up because they are not high enough?
     
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    The negative savings rate, increased bankruptcy rate, the number of Americans nearing default on car loans and student loans, etc vehemently disagree with you. As does the stagnated wage rate.
     
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    Oh well I guess we should start hoarding food.
     
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    All things that have nothing to do with the economy and everything to do with people's stupid personal choices.
     
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    Your ODS causes you to always reply with "but obama".
     
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    Right...the economy is not made up people and their choices...

    Is this what passes for economic knowledge among Trump supporters?
     
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    It was 10% of that amount, and the money was Iranian money.
     
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    No, the current number of jobs paying $100k a year has nothing to do with a person who makes $100k and buys a $500k car and gets it repossessed.

    That is correct.
     
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    The money belonged to the Shah's government.

    Not the current terror regime that overthrew the Shah's government.
     
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    The design also allows for the narcos to pass bricks of heroin through the wall.
     
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    That’s...not what’s driving most debt and defaults.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh really.

    What's causing people to not pay their loans then.
     
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    It was Iranian money. It was frozen during the mullah era.

    Not that it has anything to do with the topic.
     
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    Confiscated by whom? Where do you think it was?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it was the money that belonged to the Shah's government in 1979, which was the target of a coup.

    It does not belong to the people who partook in the coup.

    Additionally, Obama circumvented federal banking laws to send it to them.
     
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    Record high rents, stagnated wages that don’t keep up with inflation, the business environment that expects unpaid internships for months or years before giving a salary.

    Lots of factors.
     
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    Feel free to believe anything you want.
     
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    Always someone else's fault when you can't pay for the things you agreed to pay for, huh?
     
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    I'll go with things that are factual for $1000, Alex.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_frozen_assets

    Iran's assets were first frozen by U.S. president Jimmy Carter in 1979, after revolutionaries overthrew the U.S.-allied Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi's administration and took American hostages. After the Iranian Revolution in 1979, the United States ended its economic and diplomatic ties with Iran, banned Iranian oil imports and froze approximately 11 billion 1980-US dollars of its assets.[6]

    Many of the assets were then unfrozen in 1981 after the Algiers Accords were signed and the hostage crisis ended.[dubiousdiscuss] At the time of the 1979 revolution, the Pentagon re-sold some $400 million in Iranian military equipment already paid for by the deposed government, and the money was "placed in an escrow account".[1]

    Much of the frozen cash includes Iran's income from selling a limited amount of oil prior to the lifting of the sanctions, when Iran could legally sell oil but could not transfer the money back to Iran, because doing so was illegal under U.S. sanctions.[2]
     
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    You mean like Trump’s contractor fees or when his businesses went bankrupt?
     
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    It was frozen, not "confiscated". Did you think that it went into the general fund? A special piggy bank that eliminated the ownership of the money?
     
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    Changing the subject again so quickly?

    Contracting jobs are the most litigious in the industry, and all of Atlantic City took a dive.

    I notice he's still worth billions though, huh?
     
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    *LOL*

    Cite?
     

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