Trump to CNN: ‘Ask the Angel Moms’ Whether I’m Making Up a National Emergency at the Border

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Yes over eight thousand lies and missrepresentations of the truth certainly proves the correctness of your statement.

    But if you are going to be his stooge please explain why the Southern border has suddenly become a national emergency.
     
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    Had any of your guns grabbed recently?
     
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    Precisely the point. It has no more to do with it than a person's ethnicity or telephone number. The logic behind the Angel Mom thing is pathetic and it takes advantage of the families' grief for political gain.
     
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    Not yet

    And I dont intend to give the lib gun grabbers a chance to start
     
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    FAILED healthcare. You forgot that part.

    Tell me, how does securing our southern border negatively affect you?

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    The question is, why are you leaving out all the others. Singling out a single group and calling them evil is hypocrisy. Singling them out as evil for the sake of getting a wall built is disgusting.
     
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    It doesn't do that. It brings up a valid point of contention: How much sacrifice is too much, and why should our esteemed United States be the one to bare the burden of this sacrifice? I think even the minimal amount of sacrifice is already too much, and I don't believe this nation should bare the burden.

    If these people want to apply, they can do so at any one of our checkpoints and go through the system. Preferably though, rather than run from their homes I'd rather they try to fix their domestic situation first.

    Why don't we apply the neocon logic to the asylum seekers? Let's use this as justification to annex Latin America, sweep up the gangs and rebuild that continent. That way, they can receive American assistance without actually having to make the trek to the Homeland.
     
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    I too had never heard of Yang, but I like most of his ideas. I liked his "human-centered capitalism" label. The problem with people like Warren is they already have so much baggage and would be easy targets. We need someone who doesn't make the rage page on Fox every day.

    We should pretend to run one of those "most hated" candidates, let the Rs line up to do battle, then throw everything into confusion by running a different candidate.
     
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    If we take away the incentive to come here, will they still come?
     
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    Likely yes.

    With over 20,000,000 illegal aliens living in the US, they have created their own local economies. I doubt members of those communities check for immigration status when they are doing business among themselves.

    Further, with the desire to pander greater than the need to correct our immigration laws, the asylum/refugee scam will continue, despite the small percentage who actually qualify.
     
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    Yeah, all those self loathing white people on the left. Don't they know the color of one's skin is way more important than the content of one's character? I mean just look at the right wing white people's Dear Leader for proof positive.
     
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    Ok, so you build a wall and stop all immigration. Then someone gets run over by a drunk, someone gets gang-raped, someone overdoses on illegal drugs...then what? Who will you go after? Will it even spark any concern?

    Face it, your argument uses the same logic people reject when the topic is mass shootings. That's why you're seeing all the comments about guns. What's the Right's response to that? Correct, it's not the gun any more than it's the person's ethnicity.

    If you notice, there is a significant rise in the number of immigrants crossing and surrendering to border guards in order to apply for asylum. I truly wish they'd fix their problems at home, but when I look, I see many of the problems started years ago when we stepped in and interfered in their countries. I honestly don't believe that cleaning their house is a workable thing because we have a tendency to ignore countries that have no resources for us to profit from, and if they do have resources, we generally focus on profits over people.
     
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    I disagree. The problem now is that it's simple and legal to employ illegals without having to do any paperwork. Contract labor is how they do that.
     
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    Easy fix to this issue. Just like one can get a percentage of reclaimed money by turning in a tax cheat we do the same with businesses with illegals. Make it a $100,000 fine per illegal with 25% going to the one turning the business in. Businesses would get right or be closed up real quickly...
     
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    Never seen that.

    It is never legal to employ anyone, even workers supplied by a contractor, who are legally not allowed to work in the US.

    Can someone turn a blind eye to a sub-contractor who employs illegal workers? Of course. It's also not incumbent on the general to check the status of workers under a sub. However, that doesn't mean the practice is legal.
     
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    Illegal aliens do not belong in this country

    Maybe we can go after all the criminals someday

    But we have to start somewhere
     
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    There are some really bad employers

    BUt most are just trying to be cost competative with the crooks

    We also have physically remove illegal aliens from the country
     
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    I have crossed the Mexican border 100s of times and have never even been asked to present any papers....
     
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    Yep, race is merely a ‘social construct’.........just look at all those average IQ scores by race.........and look at all those high functioning black and brown countries........and look at all those Nobel Prize winners in the sciences, mathematics and medicine. It’s just skin color right?
     
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    Notice how many black and brown people there are in professional sports? The entertainment business? Notice how culturally influential they are?

    Comparing "overall" average IQ's by race implies a couple of thing that seem to zoom over certain bigots heads.

    50% or so of ALL white people have below average IQ's. Same goes for EVERY person of every color on earth.
     
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    What 'voter suppression" are you talking about? The South has a history of racism and all from the Democrats, including the KKK. Learn your past history, but also inform yourself as to what's going on today.
     
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    Read it and weep.........the color coded map is particularly telling:

    https://brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.html
     
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    It'd spark the concern of the law enforcement community who would apprehend the suspect and try him/her and bring them to justice. The reason the "right"(or nay, anyone with common sense) ignores the appeal to emotion fallacy. The criminal illegal is the same as the law-abiding illegal. There are no exceptions. Zero, none, nada. We're here right now because of the bleeding hearts, because of our "open hearts and minds." I will openly say that my heart and mind is shut.

    If you're here illegally and I'm made aware of it, I will contact ICE and have them apprehend you. That's my personal stance. Illegal immigrants are a unfair and undue burden on the Nation-State, one that I'm not willing to pay for even if you are.

    I do agree that we(by which I mean the US government) tends to ignore whenever it does deploy our forces. This is because we don't want to be 'seen' as a conquerer(while doing conquering things). It's the oxymoronic approach of US foreign policy. While I do believe Manifest Destiny to have been completed in terms of US Expansion, if the military need were argued the way I'd differ from those wannabe Napoleons(neo-cons) is that I'd actually conquer. Because in spite of all "international law", sadly force is still that which is recognized.

    INTL law only has its teeth because of the support of the Western Powers. If we abandoned INTL law, then we'd quickly return to that time where the occupant made all of the rules. Hell, one could argue that INTL law is already ignored. It's a fable for us to wave at an opposing power.(And likewise when they wave it at us.) Fiction adorning the battlefield.

    If push comes to shove and opposing powers increase their military might, even we will disregard the fable. So might as well get a head start and move to economically fix Latin America ALA Rome.
     
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    Are you also worried about tiger attacks, UFO invasions and Russian submarines off Long Island?
     
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