Is healthcare a "right?"

Yes. Extended to everyone

 

The insurance companies have their own fraud investigators and are vastly more efficient than the Government. Medicare for all means a fraud free for all.

 

GSE Hospitals get their funding from the Government contractually, they DON'T get to charge what they want.

And promptly wasted in FRAUD.

Right now the federal government catches approx. 4% to 8% of Medicare fraud. 60,000,000,000 X 6% =3,600,000,000. $3.6 Billion recovered with $60 Billion in fraud recovered? Really? Let me know when the recovery rate exceeds 50% and we'll take it from there.

 

You think the SCOTUS doesn't know about the HRSA Government sponsored health centers and Hospitals? Health care is available to all.......Sorry, No national emergency.

 

How would a system that bases what you pay on your income level bankrupt any one? Please stop spreading falsehoods. The folks that face bankruptcy went to non- government sponsored hospitals and clinics. That's their own fault for not using the system set out for them.

 

No it's not. They die waiting in that system

 

So you prefer to have the government underpay providers and take money from other taxpayers to pay for services rendered to you.

So noted.

 

You would prefer to have people die quietly.


So noted

 

You didn't answer my question. Is it right and should it be legal to ROB or ENSLAVE another person to provide low or no cost anything to someone else?

 

That's an interesting observation on your part. Do you think I want anyone to suffer and die?

 

Not expanding Medicare to include groups that is was not intended to cover doesn't prevent you from paying for your own coverage that isn't subsidized by other taxpayers. It also is not a statement of your own making that you attempt to apply to other people.

You want 'government' funded healthcare, so you don't have to pay for it yourself.

 

No. It shouldn't. That's why we need LAWS to convert to UHC.

 

I find it interesting that time and time again, I have explained how we can beat the health care problem. But no one wants a real and reasonable solution. Righties should jump all over the idea because it puts the cost health of care right into the laps of the cost drivers.

As I have explained, as much as 50% to 75% of the cost of health care can be paid through point-of-sale taxes, based on the actual cost of those choices to the system. It is pay as you go insurance.

It also kills the nanny State.

Sugar, booze, cigarettes and pot, fast food, processed foods, sugary drinks, risky activities, just to name a few, can be taxed according to their resulting health care costs. It is fair. It is reasonable. It is voluntary - no one HAS to buy booze and cigarettes. And it solves the problem.

But you all would rather argue semantics and avoid real solutions.

 

AH!! THERE it is.... the old attempt at intimidation to shut up the opponent: "you want to get free stuff and have everyone else support you".

What a cheap, lame, contrived, feckless, and oleaginous attempt to be contumelious. Your only position on our healthcare system, given that BS, is that it's fine as it is with our outcomes being worse than other developed nations at twice the price. And why would you be fine with it? -because you don't give a damn whether other people suffer and die as long as you have yours. And THAT reverse entirely your whole assertion of greed on the part of the "opposition" and puts it back on YOU. As your namesake says, you aren't concerned about collateral damage.

 

Funny...I’m 52 yrs old and have never had a claim denied. No one in my immediate family has ever had a claim denied. None of my friends have ever had a claim denied. Gee....you’d think if insurers were denying all sorts of claims that a good majority of us would have experienced it...you know...law of averages and all.

 

In fact, according to AARP, 200 million claims are rejected every year
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephe...your-healthcare-claim-is-denied/#521936ab296e

You've never heard of people being denied for preexisting conditions? You've never heard of caps on totals - both yearly and lifetime?

200 million denied claims each year and you've never heard of it.

 

How many Americans have no health insurance and are not rich?

 

People who live sheltered lives don't know what others deal with.

 

200 million averages out to 1 denied claim each year, for 2 out of every 3 people. That must be one hell of a shelter.

 

There is no pre-ex anymore. That was done away with through ACA.
And I never said claims don’t get denied. I just pointed out I as well as many others I know have never had claims denied. There are lots of reasons why claims get denied...such as incorrect coding or people not getting authorization for a procedure. Some people like to make it seem like insurers are just denying claims for sh!ts and giggles which just isn’t the case.

 

What’s your point?

 

My point is that you don't know what you're talking about and the facts I requested that you didn't provide would prove it.

 

Prove what? How about instead of being cryptic you say what you actual point is?

 

You quoted me from a post in which I quoted you, which is what my reply was about. I don't need to repeat your two sentences again. Go look.

 

My lord you are painful. YOU contacted me asking me “How many Americans have no health insurance and are not rich?”
To that I asked you what you point is, as I have no idea where you are going with that. So either explain your point or go bother someone else.