Kim Jong Un says if he wasn't willing to denuclearize, he 'wouldn't be here right now'

The left is totally bonkers

 

I never expected it to succeed

My fear was the same as your hope - that trump would sign a bad deal

Which thankfully he did not do

 

Of course we would be bashing him for giving away the farm for scraps. We are just giving Trump supporters crap because your boy has failed so miserably and any objective person could see that the negotiations were doomed to fail in the first place. Kim has gotten two sit-downs with the President of the U.S., thus giving his regime credibility, has gotten joint military exercises to stop, and he's gotten the President to announce to the world that he does not hold Kim responsible for an American that came back home a lamp.

 

What does "lifting all sanctions" mean to you, basically?

What resolutions going back decades is NK satisfied to keep in place? Why would they not care about them?

What resolutions imposed since 2016 do they want removed? Why do they care so much about them?

Your article gives you some information on that:

https://apnews.com/85250b96c38b4a238139e753302d9742

Excerpt: Emphasis added for clarity

The U.N. Security Council has imposed nearly a dozen resolutions targeting North Korea, making it one of the most heavily sanctioned countries in the world. So Kim was indeed seeking a lot of relief — including the lifting of bans on everything from trade in metals, raw materials, luxury goods, seafood, coal exports, refined petroleum imports, raw petroleum imports.​

Context, it's a bitch, but it's really important. You should learn something about it. Perhaps that's a problem because there is so little of it in the propaganda put out for Progressive consumption.

 

Would my answer make any difference to you?

LOL

 

Actually, the best that can be said about the effort to end the NK war is the left should be ashamed of themselves.

 

So you would prefer no dialog with NK?

That brings us back to the brink of war as in 2017 when liberals like you were screaming even louder that trump was a maniac

Now it turns out that its really your side that wants to blow up the world

Amazing

 

Clearly. TDS is not just a fun label to throw around. It's obviously a real thing many people are suffering from.

It is proof in real time how people can be swept up in indoctrination and propaganda, and led to believe anything.

 

You can read the article yourself. You can see which sanctions they wanted to remove and which sanctions they wanted to remain in place.

Given the information that you yourself have read and highlighted (again, for some odd reason), tell me which statement is more accurate:

"North Korea wanted to remove all sanctions" or "North Korea wanted to remove some sanctions."

 

I would prefer coherent negotiating tactics. Trump is still looking at these deals like he did his real estate deals in NY and it just doesn't work that way with high level foreign policy with so much at stake.

These kind of deals take hard, consistent diplomacy and Trump just goes in willy nilly posting on twitter and comes out with egg on his face.

 

No, but the truth does make a great deal of difference.

If Trump unilaterally walked away from the negotiation, then it is more likely that any potential future negotiations would start by North Korea making more concessions in order to get the US back to the table.

If both sides walked away from the negotiation, then it is more likely that both sides will need to make more concessions in order to get back to the table.

 

No one is criticizing Trump for trying to stop the NK nuclear threat. So you can shove that bit of strawman.

Everyone should be (and they are) criticizing Trump for his methods and the results.

 

You’re angry that trump did not reach a deal that you say was impossible to make

Take about being inconsistent and incoherent

You take the cake

 

Amazing that you think the only way to have dialogue between two countries is a high profile summit wherein our President slobs the knob of a dictator for the entire world to see.

 

Again, trump tried to broker a peace with Kim

Now at least if NK begins threatening south korea, jspan and guam or hawaii with nuclear missles you cant say trump didnt try to avoid war

 

The first. Quite clear.

 

How about you actually address what I said. Nobody here, including yourself, is stupid enough to think that Trump wasn’t trying to broker peace. That’s a big “no ****, buddy,” in response. The criticism is about HOW he’s negotiating and fluffing for a dictator. Otto’s family just came out with a statement that pretty succinctly puts Trump on the spot for his praise and weird trust of Kim.

 

"[The US State Department] acknowledged the North’s demand was only for Washington to back the lifting of United Nations Security Council sanctions imposed since March 2016 and didn’t include the other resolutions going back a decade more."

LOL.

 

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The anti trump liberal news media was not trying to help trump broker a better deal with kim by raising the Wambier question

They were trying to make sure that US-North Korean relations did not improve

Shame on liberals for their 24/7 partisanship

 

LOL

I'll take the representations offered by the President, over those of your friends in NK.

You make claims that have no basis in fact. They are just your imagination.

You claim if the President acted unilaterally NK would come back to the table hat in hand?

What do you know about NK and what they would do? Where you there? Have you met with any of your friends in NK to get their negotiation positions?

Kim said he wouldn't be there if he didn't want to denuke.

Obviously his idea of denuke, and the President's were different.

The President walked.

I can't imagine what compels Progressives to even talk about this issue. If it weren't for President Trump, there would still be missiles flying and nuke tests going off.

 

BS.

What an absurd claim.

The left and you have been ripping the President apart since his first attempts to get together with Kim.

 

The news is that every president starting with clinton has tried to buy good behavior from north korea by giving them presents worth billions of dollars

Trump is the first baby boomer president who didnt let the kim family play him for a sucker

 

Yes. All sanctions.

LOL

The great part is, you don't even know what they are.

What sanctions were they willing to keep in place?

Hmmm?

 

So you've gone in and tried to get early wins on little stuff but Kim days nope. You say it takes years, why are Trump haters mocking that a deal hasn't been struck within 2 meetings? There was no deal to get, Kim just wanted sanctions dropped with nothing in return. Kim didn't compromise. Kim is not Iran, plus, I'm not aware of the process Obama's administration dealt with Iran but the Trump administration disagrees with the deal.

I think you have a little negotiating script going on and how it will run through from the start to a fantastic conclusion, but, Kim is not playing ball.