I'm a progressive I'm also pro life, abortion rights are doomed, give up the fight.

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Sackeshi, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. BillRM

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    So I should be for a woman who does not wish to have a child at the moment to be force to have that child so I could be a father!!!!!!!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Oh, no, you managed to spell all those ;) words correctly...they still were so garbled they didn't make sense...



    You suck at English because you have no idea what grammar is.

    And no amount of grammar and/or spelling would make your statement less garbled.
     
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    THAT does NOT prove your contention that men can know a woman's pregnant before she does....
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    OH NO, you wouldn't want to KNOW the woman who you want to raise children with! How silly and old fashioned!!




    No, that doesn't mean you'd stick around.....men who are anti-abortion don't always suffer in a marriage they don't want to be in...

    Try logic someday, it isn't your friend but it may help you...
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    As long as she is cute and fertile nothing else needs to be known

    Um I have been very clear that I 100% believe that men should be forced to stay and how much I love babies. That's enough to believe someone would stay
     
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    Ya, YOU wouldn't want anyone who was intelligent, mentally competent, has a backbone, knows her rights, would kick you to the curb in an instant if you tried to force her to do anything...play it safe get a Really Stupid Cutey :)


    That PROVES your sick attitude towards woman..


    They can't be....WTF do you not get about people having rights??


    NO, it isn't....many men who love their children LEAVE.
     
  7. Sackeshi

    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    If they want kids, are cute and fertile why would I need to know anything else they want the same things as I.

    Parental responsibility should trump individual rights.

    No men who love their children keep a relationship with their children, who have you been around.
     
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    Scientifically it is a single human cell. Scientifically - the "offspring" of a human is a human.

    Given science does not claim that a single human cell is a human - you are talking out your backside and making things up.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Ya, YOU wouldn't want anyone who was intelligent, mentally competent, has a backbone, knows her rights, would kick you to the curb in an instant if you tried to force her to do anything...play it safe get a Really Stupid Cutey :)


    That PROVES your sick attitude towards woman.....seems a woman is NOTHING but a baby making machine to sexist misogynists.


    Nope, not even comparable.



    I NEVER said they didn't (study English to learn what words mean)

    Men who leave often have a great relationship with their kids.

    Kids suffer when two people who hate each other and have no respect for each other stay together.



    I live in the real world which is so far, so very far, removed from your Fantasy Land...
     
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    We both, along with others, had spend a lot of time replying to his postings an I am wondering if we had not long since pass the point of diminishing returns when it come to engaging someone like him who is at least five standard deviations from norm in both attitudes and knowledge less alone living in reality.

    I am considering just blocking him an spending my time dealing with members who are more near normal whether they agree or disagree with me.
     
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    Sackeshi Well-Known Member

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    Just because you see everyone who is pro life as the anti Christ does not mean I am not in the norm.
     
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    Not everyone - you shouldn't generalize and build Strawmen. I can not speak to your religious beliefs - perhaps you can enlighten us.

    There are however a large number in the anti abort movement that who believe that way on the basis of their religious belief and who want to force their religious beliefs on others through physical violence (Law).

    This is "anti" the teachings of "Christ".
     
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    "Defending?" What the hell are you talking about? Why do you think that I am DEFENDING the NY abortion law?
     
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    If abortion was not available, the government wouldn't be forcing pregnant women to do ANYTHING! Do you mind explaining how it WOULD be?

    Shouldn't the woman be responsible for having sex? If a woman does not wish to be pregnant, then she shouldn't have had sex! Simple! This ins't complicated!

    Sure, but what does this have to do with personal responsibility?

    Why would a woman have sex if she didn't want a kid?

    So if you think that money can influence how a child is reared, then why don't you think that providing financial support is having SOME involvement in rearing the child? You have completely contradicted yourself here!

    When did I say that it's the "ONLY thing" involved in raising children?
     
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    So why should the man have to pay for her mistake?

    Why do you think that I think that it is my business?

    Well if they weren't legally guaranteed child support payments, don't you think that might make them a little bit less inclined to have the kid and be a single mother?
     
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    :) Oh , what a perfect "squirm out of that" move....I score it a 10 !!!

    No, really, it was GOOD....using the fact that you aren't "defending" the law to get out of showing proof of your claims about it was very clever!!!


    But it's still obvious you STILL can't find anything in the law to back up your claims :)
     
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    The old trite CRAP " If women would just quit having sex then "we" wouldn't have a problem."


    A fantasy of Anti-Choicers which denies real life, history, and biology (well, actually ALL science and facts)


    Equating writing a check with actually day to day caring for children...well...just silly.(and someone who has NEVER raised children)

    Ya, it is SOME involvement but hardly the same thing......as anyone in the real world would know.

    NOTE: It changed from "involvement" to "some" involvement ;)
     
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    He is NOT paying for her mistake, he is paying for his CHILD.

    I do NOT care about why you think it's your business (or not).



    Maybe SOME would (all women are not exactly alike, I know that's a shock for you but it's true)

    BUT it's a good argument FOR abortion :)
     
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    Yes, he is paying for his child BECAUSE of her mistake!

    But you think that I think that it is my business, right? I'm asking you why you think this.
     
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    As in women can't stop themselves from having sex?

    Yes, "involvement" by itself does not mean COMPLETE involvement! I would've thought that this was obvious. Obviously not to you!
     
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    Are you serious? I already presented it! And you replied to it! Here is my post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-up-the-fight.543537/page-84#post-1070304539

    And here is your reply: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-up-the-fight.543537/page-84#post-1070305146

    Now why in the hell do you think that I am DEFENDING this law?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    He is NOT paying for her mistake, he is paying for his CHILD.


    That doesn't refute my statement above.

    AND she didn't get pregnant by herself.


    No, it's not your business. Why would it be?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    The old trite CRAP " If women would just quit having sex then "we" wouldn't have a problem."

    A fantasy of Anti-Choicers which denies real life, history, and biology (well, actually ALL science and facts)


    As in women do not have to stop having sex.

    Equating writing a check with actually day to day caring for children...well...just silly.(and someone who has NEVER raised children)

    Ya, it is SOME involvement but hardly the same thing......as anyone in the real world would know.

    NOTE: It changed from "involvement" to "some" involvement ;)
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) Oh , what a perfect "squirm out of that" move....I score it a 10 !!!

    No, really, it was GOOD....using the fact that you aren't "defending" the law to get out of showing proof of your claims about it was very clever!!!

    But it's still obvious you STILL can't find anything in the law to back up your claims :)



    I told you that I do NOT use your links.



    ………….. it's still obvious you STILL can't find anything in the law to back up your claims :)
     
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    You asked for a quote from the law. I already posted it. You replied. Then you forgot all about it! Then I directed you to my post and your reply! :roflol:


    It's obvious that you STILL don't know why the NY Senate erupted in celebration! You literally must be the only person on here who is completely oblivious! I suppose that you can hilariously continue to be under the impression that the NY Senate passed a law which didn't actually do anything! :roflol:
     

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