What's your opinion on a pardon for Manafort?

Will Trump pardon Manafort, knowing that if he does so, Manafort gives up his right not to testify and can no longer refuse to answer questions - including for the Mueller investigation of the Trump campaign that is continuing?

Does Manafort WANT a pardon given that Russian oligarchs are probably less likely to forgive his many millions of dollars of debt to them? What do major Russian crime figures provide in the way of a "pardon"?

Will a pardon even matter, given state level charges (that Trump can not pardon) as well as the continuing election related charges that have not yet been filed?

 

You should learn the difference between Ukraine and Russia. Manafort had ZERO dealings with Russian politicians.

 

Oh, good Lord!

Manafort a good number of contacts with oligarchs and others who have well known ties to Putin including being affiliated with the GRU. Are you seriously unaware of the breadth and depth of Putin's influence, including in Ukraine?

It makes ABSOLUTELY NO difference whether YOU don't want to call these individuals "politicians".

For example, Manafort was an unregistered foreign agent. Does the fact that he isn't a politician mean he's innocent?

 

Respectfully, you're talking out of your ass. The last President that was anywhere close to having friendly relations with Putin was ousted in a U.S. backed coup. And now 'our' replacement is being impeached and will likely lose the election next month to a local comedian.

I've been to Ukraine several times and I'll be in Moscow next week, so no, I don't buy the bs and I don't need a lesson either.

 

My opinion isn't based on any prediction of what I think Trump will do. My opinion is based on what I think should be the outcome.

I think that Manafort is a sleazeball. I don't, however, think that he is any more of a sleazeball than others who get away with this stuff. If others would get prosecuted, I would feel differently.

I think he is guilty. I also think that he was only prosecuted because he was peripherally connected to Trump.

I wouldn't pardon him. I would commute his sentence to time served.

 

That's a pretty good synopsis.

I agree that Manafort is a crook, but the DOJ looked at those charges years ago and decided not to prosecute. The ONLY reason he's on the chopping block now is in a crazed, hysterical attempt to "get" Trump. When this is over, his sentence should be commuted to time served.

 

I think that he should give Bill a pardon. Decades of being married to Hillary should count as time served...

 

Such is the third world witch hunt that you have to ask such questions.

 

You need to reread my post.

Then, try to connect your response to my post in some way.

 

Fill me in on what you want to discuss.

 

I know. That and incorrect charges.

 

Well, in that case I think we should make it legal to no longer pay income tax, to commit perjury, to be an unregistered foreign agent, to play with campaign funds any way one wants - such as personally pocketing the money,

I mean, why have those on the books if you believe they shouldn't be prosecuted?

 

That is like asking the same thing of Obama because he knows Putin and Yanukovych.

And who told you limitations after a pardon?

 

Manafort was working for a pro-Russian Ukrainian group, funded by Russian oligarchs. He even specifically argued that their efforts in the Ukraine were for the benefit of Putin. You can't be serious.

 

So, you believe those crimes should not be prosecuted, either?

Hmmm. I'm seeing a trend here!

Maybe we should lobby our congressmen, telling them that we no longer want campaign finance law, income tax prosecution (maybe make the brackets be "suggested donations" or start a "gofundme"?), perjury laws, etc.

 

Why misrepresent what I said?

Is it just more of what you always do?

 

OK, please go back to the OP, and use some search tool to find the question marks.

 

He already got one with the sentence Judge GOP Ellis handed down.Wonder how much payola he got???

 

Trump will (most likely) pardon him in the 2020 Lame Duck Period.

Personally?

I think Manafort should go to prison for the rest of his life.

 

Well, I certainly don't want to do THAT.

So, maybe you can help me to understand what you're saying.

It seemed to me that you wanted to commute his sentence to time served.

Let's remember that he's in jail because of his behavior during the trial - not because of the crimes I mentioned. So, the time served doesn't accrue to the actual charges for which he was found guilty - even though the judge gives him credit for that time served.

So, tell me how what I thought you said was different than what you meant when you wanted those crimes ignored?

 

That scumbag judge didn't even require him to pay back the tax money he screwed the Treasury out of and Americastaxpayers.

 

The issue is that Manafort would have never been charged with anything if Hillary had won.

 

Manafort should be prosecuted for treason.

He worked as both the Trump campaign manager and as an unregistered foreign agent for the country that was attacking the election. His crimes during that period were numerous, involving covering the tracks of the payments he received by falsifying tax returns, etc.

I really don't know how the Mueller investigation will be able to exonerate him.

I don't believe in the death penalty. So, yes, life in prison. NO possibility of parole.

 

I don't see how you can possibly derive an issue from your guesses at an alternate future.

 

He, specifically, was prosecuted because of his tenuous connection to Trump. The Justice Department had previously declined to prosecute him for the same charges.

That makes this a political persecution. Unless you can show that his partner, Panetta, is getting equally prosecuted, go home.

I think that all such people should go to jail; not just limited to those on one side of the political aisle. I believe in equal protection under the law. This is an obvious example of blatant inequality. Where is the investigation into Panetta?