New Zealand mosques: Several dead after shootings in Christchurch

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    Thank you for your apology.
     
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    Unfortunately, we see this one the forums after every white nationalist terrorist attack: people coming in to attack the victims and sympathize with the ideology of the murderer.
     
  3. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't what?
    Only in your own little mind.
     
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    Interesting thing about this white supremacist who (allegedly) committed this attack is that his manifesto reflects the same sentiments expressed by right wingers in this forum on a daily basis. He says the white race is under attack and in danger of extermination. He defends Trump. He defends violence which targets Muslims.

    As usual, the racist ignores the fact that "Christian" whites invaded Australia, that the whites who did so exterminated hundreds of thousands of aboriginals, that Nazi style repression was imposed on those people such as taking children from their families, forcing them to speak English, and deculturalization. Somehow, such Nazi repression is perfectly OK which is a sentiment "justified" by certain Christian professing whites in the USA whose ancestors did the same thing to Native Americans.

    Thus, it comes as no surprise that this violence took place and that the evildoers who did it are so much like certain (but not all) right wingers on this forum.
     
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    You credit me with far too much suspicion...I just think the world's gone off its' friggin rocker...my worry with your thought process, forgive me if I'm barking up the wrong tree (which happens on a dismally frequent basis) is that you seem to be countenancing and accepting an act of terrorism in which a load of people were killed in terms of some misguided attempt at theocratic supremacy.... irrespective of which camp they may fall into! This and other acts of terrorism in the name of whatever friggin deity they may claim them to be in are just that...acts of terrorism and should be treated as acts of terrorism. To view them in any other way is in my limited way of thinking absurd because you then create nonsensical divisions within elements of the social whole predicated upon some self-serving fallacy . Terrorism affects everyone irrespective of race, colour and creed and shrills wittering on about Gods or prophets of Gods or what god said what; and to whom he said it and why he said it is just asinine..... its all just terrorism.....and the world's gone fkucing mad

    The world developed the nuclear bomb... it was a joint effort with so many countries and peoples and talents...even us Brits had a pretty big hand in it so what?
     
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    Yes, it's a shame innocent people are being killed by fanatics of any stripe but that's been going on for decades, usually emanating from the Middle East.

    Any ideas how it can be stopped?
     
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    With just a couple of name changes, your screed could have come from that manifesto as well.
     
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    A good start would be to call out victim blaming.
     
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    Now that is hilarious.....that's like telling the Mongoose he is afraid of the Cobra that he is about to eat.
     
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    Muslims have been under vicious attacks in Burma, China, and India. Further, the continued imperialistic occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq which resulted in the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Muslims is no different from the Nazi occupation of East Europe and Russia. But that never bothers most professing Christians of the far right.
     
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    Hamas does not do those things that Poohbear alleges. But yes, his allegations are repulsive and poisonous.
     
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    Do you always miss the boat?
     
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    What bubble have you been living in. Yes Hamas does those things. Using children and women. Even hiding behind women and children.
     
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    It will be recalled that forum right wingers often attributed each and everyone of ISIS's actions to Obama. They claimed his withdrawal from Iraq caused that group to emerge and to cause violence. However, the historical facts clearly reveal that group emerged when Bush invaded Iraq and killed off Saddam. To this day, right wing ODS prevails in this forum.
     
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    The only people who believe that nonsense is those who believe Breitbart's lies. The same ones which allege that Muslims routinely shout "F * * * K Jesus!" when they never do.
     
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    But that's an essential part of terrorism. If they couldn't blame the victim - or their religion, color, or nationality - there would be no excuse for terrorism. Notice how terrorist sympathizers often use the generic "Americans", Christians" or "Jews" following an attack and how their behavior is probably responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. It's called 'scapegoating'.
     
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    ^ the lies




    the truth:


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    It is Israeli children who are taught to hate and to kill.
     
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    Agreed. Then no more blaming innocent Jews or Americans for the world's ills when an attack on innocent people anywhere in the world is made.
     
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    When European News, the US Media, the Asian Times all report on what Hamas does. Its pretty much a lock as to what they did.

    So save the garbage about Breitbart. For those who really use them as a source.

    Your alternative reality isn't based in truth or fact. So come back to reality. There is no need for you to be locked away in a bubble wherein you fool yourself.
     
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    Yes. That's what I'm calling out here. Glad you agree that the people attacking Muslims in this shooting while sympathizing with the white separatist philosophy of the shooter are being terrorist sympathizers.
     
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    right wingers never had any credibility on this thread (or the forum for that matter)
     
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    Except that they never PROVED it. The Koran forbids using children in war. This is why Muslims don't do so. The ame Koran which calls Jesus Messiah which is why those people never say F * * * K Jesus unlike the beliefs of the deluded far right.


    By the way, do you still believe Muslims profane Jesus as those right wingers allege??
     
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    They didn't. On the contrary Israelis were shown celebrating.
     
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