From Trayvon to Jussie — Poll Shows Media Hoaxes Killed Race Relations

Hahaha! Thugvon was caught with burglary tools. He was a druggie who attacked a guy with a gun.

 

Genius, he stalked a kid in a car, then got out of the car with a gun to look for him......Martin confronted his stalker and a fight ensued. Read the following carefully and comprehensively:

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/z...both-supports-casts-doubt-on-zimmerman-claims

 

Justice for the media hoax not for actual events.

Gutless.

you're blind.

 

Fictitious tales of what you wished had happened.

 

Hey Traygone.

Don't bring your fists to a gun fight.

 

Zimmerman drunken scuffle with a cop hardly showed his strength at all. If he managed to beat up a strong cop that would show something but that didn't happen.

Zimmerman was an advocate against racism. His great grandfather I believe was black. Relatives of Zimmerman are black. He said he only followed because of behavior and not race. He wasn't expecting to be punched.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/327335

Watch the video and Zimmerman did use the word "jump" to refer to Zimmerman probably jumping out of the bushes. Main point he sucker punched him which had to be a shock to Zimmerman.

"In the video, Zimmerman explains why he found Trayvon suspicious. According to Zimmerman, Trayvon was in the yard of someone Zimmerman knew and whose home had only recently been burgled. Trayvon, according to Zimmerman, was on the grass and not on the sidewalk. Zimmerman said: "He was just leisurely looking at the house. That’s what threw me off. It’s raining. I didn’t understand why somebody would be just stopping in the rain."

From the modestly left leaning Wikipedia. (Most Wikipedia editors are liberal but they are actually at least better than mainstream media in reporting facts... a low bar indeed.)

"Adam Pollock, owner of a kickboxing gym where Zimmerman had previously trained, testified that Zimmerman was "grossly obese," and not athletic at all. Pollock also testified that "He was an overweight, large man when he came to us, a very pleasant, very nice man, but physically soft and predominantly fat, not a lot of muscle, not a lot of strength." He also testified that Zimmerman came to the gym to lose weight and get in shape.[167] Pollock was asked to demonstrate for the jury what the mixed-martial arts fighting method known as "ground and pound" was, and showed the jury by straddling O'Mara on the floor of the courtroom.[171]

Olivia Bertalan, a former neighbor of Zimmerman's from The Retreat at Twin Lakes, testified that she was the victim of a home invasion in the gated community. Bertalan said that she hid in her son's bedroom as two teenagers broke into her home.[172][173] After the robbery, she said that Zimmerman had come over to her house and offered her a lock for her sliding glass door. Bertalan also testified that Zimmerman told her that she could go spend time with his wife if she felt too scared to be home alone during the day. She estimated that she had discussed the robbery with Zimmerman about 20 times after it happened"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_George_Zimmerman#Defense's_witnesses'_testimony

So spare me the BS you have just spewed. I never said Zimmerman was 16 or never meant to say it. That was Martin's rough age.

Zimmerman's own personal trainer said Zimmerman was not in good shape. Zimmerman was like the millions of Americans not in shape so they higher a personal trainer to try to get in better shape.

You can believe me or not but I am quite confident at 16 I could have easily beat up over half of the 28 year old men in America. But at the same time at 28 years old, some 14 years olds in America could have kicked my ****. I know my strength and fighting ability at various ages of my life. You don't need to get into tons of street fights to have a clue to have a good idea how you will do against the average American based upon your past fights/wresting matches et cetera in school and your strength and the fights of other people you know. And realizing how other people have done in fights that you have fought.

Over half the men in America at age 28 don't give an F about fighting or even being in shape so the bar is set low. At 16 plenty of kids are still playing sports like football/wrestling that rely upon strength.

 

Well said. I believe Trayvon Martin was pretty much killed by white liberals and some African Americans that lowered the bar on expectations for his behavior.

Martin in 2-3 years went from normal everyday kid to a thug in training. Instead of focusing on why this happened, they focused on the wrong things.

At a much younger age than 16, I had very serious reason to believe someone was trying to abduct me. What did I do when scared for my life, I ran the fastest I have ever in my life in a direction that it would be very hard for them to follow and easily got away.

SJW's are so into identity politics that they refuse to apply common sense.

If Zimmerman threw the first punch then he deserved to get arrested for homicide in an incident like this. Most folks would agree with that. But who the F as neighborhood watch calls the cops a few times and knows they are on their way in any second and then throws the first punch against someone he doesn't even know. I could see doing this to setup someone you hate but not someone you don't know unless perhaps you are a professional killer hired by the mob or something sinister like that.

It is illogical for Zimmerman to have thrown the first punch in the circumstances of this case and that is why they really didn't want to prosecute at first since there was no good evidence contradicting self defense.

 

There was no crime committed until Traygone punched Zimmerman.

 

No Justice for a murdered teenager.

Coming from a man who needs a gun for a 160lb teenager.

My eyes are wide open.

 

So how does a man whom you guys claim is timid and afraid getting into a scuffle with an off duty cop.

Was he? Here is what he thinks about Mexican folks.

Had Trayvon been white he would have gone on to Target.

All of that is a crock of ****. The kid responsible for the break ins in that neighborhood had been arrested 2 weeks prior to that and when did it become a crime to look at a house. You can make up any ****ing thing you want to when you are the one telling the story.

Adam Pollock was a Zimmerman witness, what the hell else was he going to say.

None of which had a damn thing to do with Trayvon Martin, so what is your point?

Just because you are not in good shape doesn't mean you can't handle a 160lb teenager, that's stupid as hell. You clowns act as if Trayvon Martin was a professional football player, this was a kid in HS. Zimmerman is a grown ass man.

Which doesn't mean ****, most teenagers think they are invincible.

That's because you are probably a soft ass man, hell a man is in his prime between 27 and 35yrs old.

Please I have had fights growing up and when I was in the Army I have been in bar fights, you guys are just some weak ass men basically.

All I can say is there are some weak ass men on this forum.

 

You are outright denying FACTS presented during the case. Its like you seriously haven't read a single official document and are going by memes or news you heard during the first couple weeks before all the truth started coming out. I'm going to have to just let you go at this point, because you're either arguing with absolutely ZERO knowledge of what actually happened, or you're simply trolling everyone in this thread by taking on the persona of a stereotypical, ignorant angry black man profile, which would lead me to believe you could be a Russia bot or are incredibly bored. Check that, a bot doesn't engage directly. Its called a cyborg now. Listening to a podcast about them. I just cant' do this anymore and if anyone else is reading this PLEASE do the same. Don't feed the trolls. Have a nice day.

 

You explain it too me, his so called injuries didn't even require a band aid.

 

Yep chalk this one up to the right wing hero got away with murdering a young black teenager. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see there was an injustice done to Trayvon mainly and his family as well.

 

BECAUSE there were no witnesses that disputed GZs account of the event, his testimony to considered truthful....or at least provides the "shadow of doubt" necessary in a murder trail. I'm sorry, but that is how the law works.

Beside, the testimony of the girl TM was talking to on the phone before the shooting implied that this was the case when she stated that TM said he was going back to "kick his butt" and she tried to convince him not to and pleaded with him to just go into the apartment.

 

Traygone got just what he deserved.
The state should pay Zimmerman for all the money he saved them
by taking out a punk that the state would have housed and fed for the next 60 years.

 

messed up message

 

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/trayvon-martin/article1951821.html

People should read the article above. It demonstrates that Martin loved to get into fights and wanted to buy a gun. And he was also a druggie. Use pot and lean. He had gotten suspended from school for fighting very recently. He was quickly turning into a messed up on drugs thug...his friend or Martin himself joked that his behavior might get him killed...it obviously did. Zimmerman has the good and bad parts of his own behavior but everything points to Zimmerman in this situation being completely in the right.

There was many robberies in the area so neighborhood watch was needed to restore safety and sanity to the community. Makes sense in an area like that to have a gun for self protection or know how to use it in case you run into a real bad actor.

I believe there was even a video clip of Martin getting into an after school fight on purpose to just sharpen his fighting skills. One would hope people outgrow that stage before middle school but Martin didn't.

Add all of this up, and this is why I believe the black community, white liberals and Martin's parents killed Trayvon. He wasn't being taught right from wrong nearly well enough.

Eventually he would have been killed on the street giving the path he was going down or kill himself and probably end up in jail.

 

Trump made his birther claims, his attacks on Ted Cruse - the School admissions scandal - Sadly from the president on down people think lying is ok now

 

He was in the process of buying an illegal gun.

Zimmerman saved some lives, and eliminated housing and feeding Traygone for the next 60 years.

 

You don't even need to be injured at all to fire in self defense.

However, if Zimmerman had waiting another 10 seconds or so to fire that shot, he may have been dead given the time it took police to arrive on the scene. He had been screaming for help and his head at times was being smashed to the ground.

Repeated blows to the nose and eyes and teeth often cause bleeding/very visible damage but blows other places don't.

Hard hits to the head usually don't cause that much external bleeding but in the case of Zimmerman, visible damage showed that his head in all probability was slammed to the ground repeatedly.

You lose consciousness in a situation like that and a stranger can easily kill you and Zimmerman wasn't that far away from losing consciousness.

 

Why didn't he simply go home and call the cops?

 

They found a screwdriver in the bushes.
Never connected to him, but suspicious.
Same tool he was busted with before.
He was probably prowling.

 

I never heard about the screwdriver. I just bought a new car with fancy alloy wheels (I have locks). Leaving work I noticed a vehicle driving very slowly by my car, then took off. On my way home in the early hours of the morning I noticed the same vehicle following me at a distance through a lot of odd turns (I drove and Armored Truck for 20 years, I notice stuff like that...habit). I called the Cops and arranged for a patrol vehicle to be waiting in a certain spot. I drove past and so did the car following me. The cops pulled them over and I went home. It's what normal people do.

That's why I recommend if your state allows it (California does), put your registration and insurance in a P.O. Box. The cops can see your physical address on their MDT, but anyone breaking in or stealing your car can only see the P.O. Box number. When my other car was stolen, my registration and insurance card were found out to the envelope and on the floor, somebody looked at it.

 

It works like that for some people.

She also said that Zimmerman was still following him, which means he wasn't looking for a street name to give the police.

 

Did you hear about the "Lean", and "No limit Ni--a"