America Does not have a violence or gun problem. America has a black problem

Ahhh so you want to be able to discriminate against the races YOU want to discriminate but we can’t.

Snotloller

 

See.. we can have conversations about race and systematic failures without it being racist.

 

Right but the intent is not to keep people on the dole.

It’s to move people OFF of it.

 

As a percentage of government spending welare programs are just as large as ever

 

It's not a lack of funding and/or resources. Throwing money at the problem never works. That's an experiment that's been tried again, and again, and it fails every times.

Bill de Blasio recently shoveled damn near a billion dollars at that liberal fairytale, and down the crapper it went, same as it always does when money is thrown at inner city schools.

Plenty more examples of just this sort of failed experiment are available upon request.

Here's a $2 billion floperooni.

America’s Most Costly Educational Failure
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/americas-most-costly-educational-failure

 

there is no general defense clause. the right wing just likes to complain about the general welfare for the Poor.

 

The left took the term “general welfare” and bastardized it to mean wiping every nose

 

More accurately it's a black culture problem. And it is some smaller portion of black people, not all.

 

Rich black entertainers, sport stars and business people should step up and help these schools both financially and with moral support instead of moving into gated mostly white communities and turning their backs on black society problems.

 

Your pedantics are becoming tiresome.

 

Not sure I understand your point.

 

Who let the OP out of Stormfront?

 

Who is telling blacks they are inferior today? Other blacks for starters... Al Sharpton, Maxine Waters, and the race industry... then guilt-ridden white liberals who tell us blacks are too stupid to even obtain ID cards for the purpose of voting. And when I suggest that people should be judged solely on their merit? Well heck that makes me a racissssssss...

 

They even go so far as telling us blacks are too stupid to obtain ID cards for the purpose of voting.

 

Define what general welfare actually amounts to.

 

Funding is far less predictive of educational outcomes as is the individual student's commitment to educational success and her support system (ie, do her parents go to conference night, make sure the homework is done, tell her she's staying in school, etc.)

Generally speaking, urban schools with predominantly black/brown students perform below suburban districts with predominantly white/Asian students (with the Asians performing the best). Often a selling point in real estate is "good schools." Measured objectively, quality of instruction, quality of family support, and quality of student effort are the best predictors of educational outcomes. The former correlates to funding, but not nearly in a linear fashion, where as the middle and latter are almost completely exclusive of funding. And if we look only at high school graduation rates in the nine states closest to the national average in spending per student, the numbers vary widely:

NATIONAL AVG.: $11,762/STUDENT : GRAD RATE 83.2%, WHITE 86%, BLACK 69% (17ppt. DELTA)
HIGHEST - IOWA: $11,150/STUDENT : GRAD RATE 90.8%, WHITE 91%, BLACK 74% (17ppt. DELTA)
LOWEST - LOUISIANA: $11,038/STUDENT : GRAD RATE 77.5%, WHITE 78%, BLACK 65% (13ppt. DELTA)
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The other seven states (MI, WA, CA, WI, VA, MT, WV) fall pretty much in the middle as you would expect. But look at Iowa... spending is marginally less than the national average, but they surpass the national average in graduation rate by almost 10%... and interestingly the delta between white and black students is exactly the same as the national average. Then Louisiana, spending only slightly less ($112) than Iowa achieves almost 10% below the national average and about 17% below Iowa with virtually the same expenditure per student. Interestingly, Louisiana does better in black graduation than both Iowa and the nation, closing the delta to only 13%.

And speaking of that delta, the two worst states of the nine are, ironically, the neighboring states of Michigan ($11,668/STUDENT) and Wisconsin ($11,456/STUDENT). Again with nearly identical spending, Michigan graduates 36% more white students than black (Detroit, Flint) while Wisconsin posts a whopping 43% disparity between black and white graduation rates.

Now again, this is looking only at graduation rates so it is admittedly not painting a complete picture, but generally if your minority populations are failing at a greater rate than your white populations, it's a safe bet that they are deficient in the other metrics as well.

Bottom line: While funding correlates tangentially to educational outcome, it is far from the chief driver.

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(DATA: https://www.governing.com/topics/education)

 

Actually scotus does not consider affirmative action unfair discrimination so take it up with them. But I am fine with discrimination on a case by case basis

 

What is a person working two minimum wage jobs doing having children?

 

I am guessing if the crime in those neighborhoods are still going up, they aren't the ones working.
Hard to work while in jail.

 

and, the right wing was worse with our Common defense clause.

 

the Power to solve our problems; stop whining about Problems if you don't want Government invovled.

 

So what?
That doesn't make it a failure.
As I said the population has grown. New people get on every year, other people get off every year. Welfare isn't set up to end poverty or even end. It's set up to help people when difficulty happens.
The fact its the same as ever, means it's holding steady.

 

I don't see why not.
But do you think its race or poor? I am confused?
IMO, the redlining of the 50s/60s is a huge reason why inner cities became poor. Money left those areas and they were sorta forced into poverty.

Have you read about what redlining did?

 

Exactly. How many of them have been on the dole for the entire 50 yrs?
Don't you think its a revolving door? For the vast majority of those that use the system?

I agree the intent is to be a crutch, not a life style.

And as we have more jobs, that should have the welfare $$$$ dropping. And I bet it has over the last 10 yrs.

 

Is every pregnancy planned?
And if one wants to get an abortion but is poor, they can't.
So they have the kid and then we all get to support the kid, instead of terminating the pregnancy.
Which is less cost?