The F-35 is Set to Receive Most Expensive Software Patch in History

The debate about the flaws and cost over runs of the F-35 debacle continue as the U.S. allies receive and complain of glitches in their newest Naval, Air Force, and Marine division warplane. Pres. Trump was absolutely right to come out against this turkey.

Whether it's Bernies F-35, OR Bob Dornans B-1 Bomber ... politicians are more worried about getting defense contributions, and supplier factories in their backyard than wasting tens of billions ... total cost of a fleet of 4,456 Lockheed F-35 models, a whopping $430 billion dollars.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb




This is the ultimate pork project program Lockheed ever devised - Stealth capable, designed for use with both JDAM and b61 nuclear warhead delivery like the B-2 Stealth fighter, so complicated and unreal the F-35 contains 8 million lines of code in it's computer systems say critics, but the real debate is whether the actual systems can tell friend from foe (recall the AEGIS radar failure in discerning a passenger plane from a fighter jet back in the day leading to the Iranian jetliner disaster?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegis_Combat_System#Iran_Air_Flight_655


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The F-35 is Set to Receive the Deadliest (and Most Expensive) Software Patch in History
If the Pentagon can get the money together.If the Pentagon can get the money together.

by Sebastien Roblin



February 17, 2019

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Increasingly, software ranging from operating systems to word processors and computer games, is being sold as a subscription service, rather than a one-time purchase. On the upside, that can mean ongoing updates, expanded functionality, and bug and security fixes. On the downside, not only are those continual updates continually paid for, but software is increasingly sold lacking vital features and Q&A testing—flaws only corrected using the dollars and testing feedback of early adopters.

Such an approach also applies to the Lockheed F-35 Lightning II stealth fighter , which at a projected $1.5 trillion lifetime cost, is the most expensive weapons program in human history.

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Improved sensors and datalinks will synergize with software upgrades integrating new weapons including the Small Diameter Bomb II, the JSOW-C, AIM-9X Block II launch lock-on-after-launch air-to-air missile, and the B-61 nuclear bomb. These new armaments, as well as weapons integrated for European F-35 operators, are detailed in a companion article.

In 2019, the F-35’s computer is set to receive an Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System that detects when an F-35 is headed for a face plant, and automatically maneuvers the plane to avert one. Implementation of a GCAS on the F-16 reportedly prevented six crashes between 2014-2018, and is estimated to prevent around 26 accidents on the F-35 across its service life."



https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...d-most-expensive-software-patch-history-44742

 

Ah, business is good for the military industrial complex.

 

Kinda late to do anything about it now, that is their plane.

Be pointless to let it fail now.

It certainly will go down as one of the biggest military hardware blunders in history though.

 

Certainly this is expensive. Here are some other developments that showcase some of the potential advantages of this bird.

Air Force To Turn Navy Air Defense Busting Missile Into High-Speed Critical Strike Weapon.

In a conflict with China overcoming anti-access and area denial will be key.

 

It's certainly a good plane, now, but worth the cost?

I don't know and also it's never really been tested in a fight.

If I were Queen I would scrap all our planes and turn us into a drone air force for 1/3 of the cost.

 

The Israeli Air Force used the F-35 in two recent strikes in the Middle East, Norkin said, according to the news outlet Haaretz.

Israel’s decision to employ its (F-35) Adir, or “Mighty One,” may stem from February’s downing of an IAF F-16 in Syria, which prompted some experts to question why the IAF was not using the stealthy jet against capable Syrian air defenses.

 

The feature set of this aircraft, present and future, is remarkable. The cost is high, but clearly there are big benefits in return for those costs, and that is just going by the OP article. Tons of software and hardware upgrades are on the way.

Obviously those who invest in this thing know what they are getting. This will be the warplane of the future and will obsolete everything that Russia and China are able to field for a long time to come.

 

That is an interesting thought. A drone force could easily swarm an air force. However, you also have to be wary of interference with drones. They're entirely reliant on remote controls, and that is terribly vulnerable.

I also doubt that costs would remain so low if you really went that route. It would just be another kind of arms race, and such advanced technology will always come with high R&D costs.

 

I'm sure it would be very expensive while we research the problems as you mentioned but in the end it would be far more cost effective.

And as much as we use our planes for fighting I think they would be just fine.

Basically combat aircraft nowadays are just missile platforms anyways.

Everything will go to robotics anyways so we might as well get a jump and lead the pack.

 

Why would it be more cost-effective? Either way we're fielding fancy flying machines with fancy weapons attached to them. I think it would be a wash.

 

Totally worth it, in light of how promising this platform is. Its been performing well, and the Marines flew them hard into Syria recently, and they held up well.

No comparison between 4th and 5th gen. And the F35 is later 5th gen.

And about costs-the F35 unit cost has dropped in light of healthy international sales.

 

To me the F-35 looks like a ground support platform, not air superiority. If true, one is left to wonder if the F-22 is the last of those breeds. Drones? I would put my dollars in that pot rather than another generation of impossibly complex and expensive air superiority fighters. Just a thought.

 

Because the upkeep on jets would far exceed the upkeep on drones.

Still, we are not in a place where drones can replace aircraft. Not yet anyway.

 

Drones can't be far off.

The F-35 is nor an air superiority fighter, like the F22. However its no slouch and would destroy even the best 4th gen fighters. Its been simulated several times.

We are already working on 6th gen aircraft.

Defining factors will be ultra high performance engines, various additional communication modes, and the ability to fire lasers.

As I understand it, the reason we maintain a lead over China, etc even though they work hard to copy our designs, is because they have so much less time working with the materials and methods of a 5th gen.

That gives us a roughly 2 decade lead.

 

Unless drones become more sophisticated, I suppose, and I imagine they would if we were really relying on them.

 

Yea, we'll keep moving the technology further along and see what shakes out. I would imagine that as the weapons keep improving, the counter measures and tactics will too. As I see it, drones will become the preferred weapon with aircraft taking a secondary role. I don't see aircraft going away anytime soon and will be an intrical part of operations.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-57
. "Do your people need some HELP?"

 

a piece of junk that has nearly the same dimensions as its predecesor.

 

Russia built 10 and scrapped it.

They can't afford it and there aren't any buyers.

 

Holy cow! I didn't know the Russian SU-57 was failure! Is their SU-35 a POS also? Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-35

 

There are only ten flying aircraft and no customers.

SU-35 at least sold outside of Russia, but its 4th gen and not the best.

The US is also purchasing more F-15's.

While its not a 5th gen, its probably the best 4th gen air superiority fighter, which makes it handy to have.

 

That's interesting. The F-15 is a great aircraft with a stellar combat record. I don't believe one has ever been shot down?? But wow, the F-15 is darn near fifty year old technology. I'm not sure what that says.

 

I think it says we should have made more f22's. But for the time being its still more than enough globally.

Nobody else is building 5th gens, and the US is already well into 6th gen.

 

so I heard the first people that experienced this thing in the 737 Max 8 successfully found the checklist and corrected the problem and save the airplane

the two guys afterwards that got hit by it couldn't find it in the checklist and it's on The voice cockpit recorder that the pilot was trying to find what the f*** you need to do to save the ******nthe two g

if we don't have socialism and government and oversight over things that are essential to human life and economy and business then things are going to get out of hand real fast

I'm sorry that Donald Trump says socialism will never happen in America socialism is happening all over the globe every freaking day

 

Socialism seems off topic.