How Does Trump Stack UP To Other Presidents?

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  1. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's give a report card grade for all the presidents you personally lived through. Here goes:

    Franklin Roosevelt = A
    Harry Truman = C
    John Kennedy = B+
    Lindon Johnson = C-
    Richard Nixon = D
    Gerald Ford = C+
    Jimmy Carter = B
    Ronald Reagan = B+
    George H.W. Bush = C+
    Bil Clinton = B
    George W. Bush = C
    Barak Obama = A-
    Donald Trump = D-
     
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    I think you overrated Ford and Carter a bit.
     
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    Franklin Roosevelt = F
    Harry Truman = F
    John Kennedy = F
    Lindon Johnson = F
    Richard Nixon = F
    Gerald Ford = F
    Jimmy Carter = F
    Ronald Reagan = F
    George H.W. Bush = F
    Bill Clinton = F
    George W. Bush = F
    Barak Obama = F
    Donald Trump = F

    That was easy!
     
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    nra37922 Well-Known Member

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    Per ACO, FDR was a RACIST so he gets a F
     
  5. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that all you got? Is "ACO" (who's that) doing your thinking?
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    FDR was a conservative who didn't appreciate the need for Keynesian economics. A lot suffered unnecessarily because of it. Ironically, right wingers now condemn him as a socialist. Go figure.
     
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    John Kennedy = D Almost killed us all and was more interested in getting into Monroe's pants. Got us into Viet Nam
    Lindon Johnson = D- Escalated Viet Nam
    Richard Nixon = C Good foreign policy got us out of Viet Nam. Too bad he was so paranoid and he didn't handle the hippies too well.
    Gerald Ford = D+ Meh
    Jimmy Carter = F Didn't do anything really. Was a good Ex-POTUS until he got senile
    Ronald Reagan = B Good come back from Carter with the economy. Spent too much.
    George H.W. Bush = B Good results with the Iraq war. Looking back, was smart to leave Saddam in power
    Bil Clinton = B Was lucky enough to have a great economy. Didn't screw it up and worked well with the Republican Congress to cut spending
    George W. Bush = C Good on economy but got us into a never ending war and spent too much. I can't say that I would have done it differently though without hindsight.
    Barak Obama = D Escalated race problems and prolonged the recession. Spent way too much
    Donald Trump = B Has boosted the economy and pretty much done (or attempted) to do what he promised. Needs to shut down the Twitter but has actually done way better than I had expected.
     
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    How did he do that? Or is he simply a beneficiary of the business cycle?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose everyone is entitled to their perspective but "Good results with the Iraq war" ? Even for someone who agreed with the war - that perspective requires some serious mind altering substances to achieve IMO.
     
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    You have to explain John Kennedy = B ???
    JFK had more failures than accomplishments during his three years in the White House.
    Up went the Berlin Wall
    Bay of Pigs
    Cuban Missile Crisis and JFK blinked and gave Kruschev what he wanted.
    Getting America into a shooting war in South Vietnam by signing off on the CIA backed military coups and murder of President Diem.

    Jimmy Carter = B
    Carter's foreign policies were a complete failure.

    Barack Obama = A-
    The Middle Eat is a complete basket case today because of Obama's failed policies
    America became divided under Obama and that was Obama's agenda
    Every executive branch of the federal government was politicised under Obama including the IRS, DOJ, FBI
    Enormous damages to the U.S. military that will cost trillions of dollars to repair.
     
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    You have to explain John Kennedy = B ???
    JFK had more failures than accomplishments during his three years in the White House.
    Up went the Berlin Wall
    Bay of Pigs
    Cuban Missile Crisis and JFK blinked and gave Kruschev what he wanted.
    Getting America into a shooting war in South Vietnam by signing off on the CIA backed military coups and murder of President Diem.

    Jimmy Carter = B
    Carter's foreign policies were a complete failure.

    Barack Obama = A-
    The Middle Eat is a complete basket case today because of Obama's failed policies
    America became divided under Obama and that was Obama's agenda
    Every executive branch of the federal government was politicised under Obama including the IRS, DOJ, FBI
    Enormous damages to the U.S. military that will cost trillions of dollars to repair.
     
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    So you want the govt. to have the power to arbitrarily close any corporation or enterprise for no other reason than your personal dislike of them...How intolerant of you so called liberty loving Americans..
     
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    Franklin Roosevelt = B-
    Harry Truman = C-
    Dwight Eisenhower = B
    John Kennedy = C
    Lyndon Johnson = C
    Richard Nixon = B
    Gerald Ford = C
    Jimmy Carter = D
    Ronald Reagan = B (Reagan would have rated a B+ if he hasn't signed the 1986 IRA into law.)
    George H.W. Bush = C+
    Bill Clinton = C
    George W. Bush = C
    Barak Obama = D-
    Donald Trump = B
     
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    Why would you as the leader of the world want to have potential enemies stronger than their own nation?

    You people have absolutely no idea how the world works for humans..
     
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    Are you referring to FDR and Stalin's USSR ?
     
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    opps AOC
     
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    I would rate the following:
    Harry Truman = C Ended WWII, but used atomic bombs; got us mired in Korea; helped start the Cold War; desegregated the U.S. military
    Dwight Eisenhower = C Built the national interstate highway system
    John Kennedy = B Envisioned & started America to the Moon; first to support civil rights movement under ML King, Jr
    Lyndon Johnson = B Strong advocate of civil rights; strong support of American Space Program; wrong on Vietnam.
    Richard Nixon = D Intentionally stalled Vietnam peace talks for political gain; Watergate
    Gerald Ford = C+ Brought honesty & integrity back to the White House after Nixon; good place holder President; pardoned Nixon
    Jimmy Carter = B First peace treaty between Israel & Arabs; let economy fall victim to serious inflation; failure to mitigate U.S. Embassy hostages in Iran
    Ronald Reagan = B- Helped end the Cold War; saddled America with "trickle down" economics
    George H.W. Bush = C+ Strong leader in foreign affairs; weaker domestically; continued "trickle down" economics
    Bill Clinton = C+ Balanced the budget; tried to initiate a better national healthcare system
    George W. Bush = D+ Allowed 9/11 terrorist attack; started two wars--one unnecessary & based on lies; caused the Great Recession of 2008
    Barack Obama = A- Set high standards of personal behavior for President; passed Affordable Care Act 2010
    Donald Trump = F Set lowest standard of personal behavior of any President; passed tax cut for wealthy; reinstated "trickle down" economics; started unnecessary trade wars; reneged on Paris Accords; etc.
     
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    Then your scale leaves you out of the discussion
     
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    1. The Middle East has been a basket case since ancient times. It was a mess when Jesus gave the Sermon on the Mount. It was that way during & following WWI. It was that way when Israel became a nation state again in 1948. Obama did nothing to worsen the situation in the Middle East.
    2. I have no idea what you're talking about here. Obama was the most honest, honorable, compassionate President since Jimmy Carter, and did NOTHING I know of to divide this nation except be black. And that only worked for a racist minority.
    3. Give examples to support your accusations. The Executive branch is FAR MORE politicized today under Trump than ever under Obama. Trump believes the DOJ is supposed to swear allegiance to him personally rather than to the U.S. Constitution. I think your post here is DEAD WRONG.
    4. Obama left the U.S. military in the strongest position it had been in possibly ever. Give us examples supporting your accusations.
     
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    Jimmy Carter was the worst President in modern times (post 1900) until Obama became POTUS.

    Now Obama is the worst President and Carter is bumped up to the second worst President.

    Jimmy Carter has been grinning since 2009.
     
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    Carter was bad. Obama was the best since jfk
     
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    You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Mine differs. Can you offer any legitimate reasons for your assertions toward Carter or Obama, or is it just personal reaction?
     
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    Well I was an adult when Carter gave away our canal in Panama that my great grandfather paid for.

    Carter's response to the Soviets invading Afghanistan was boycotting the Olympics.

    Carter couldn't even control the whacky Democrats of his own party in Congress.

    Then there was Carter's lack of response when Iranian jihadist took over our Embassy.

    And nobody was a happy camper having to do this back in 1979.
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    I remember the odd/even days. If your license plate was odd, you couldn’t gas on an even day. The work around was paying for a full service car wash where you could fill up any day.
     
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    I remember the odd and even days.
    But I didn't know about the car wash loophole.
     

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