‘American Political Thought’ course at CU Denver removes all white men from curriculum

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  1. ModCon

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    https://www.thecollegefix.com/ameri...denver-removes-all-white-men-from-curriculum/

    Yes, you've read the thread title correctly, and no, it's not an onion article.

    I'm no longer surprised by any such thing, but still feel inclined to bring it up for discussion. I'm always curious to see when this sort of thing is going too far for the people who're likely sympathetic.

    If this doesn't seem totally insane to you, please feel free to explain your reasoning. Please remember, we're talking about American Political Thought.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well it's an ethnic studies class not an American history one.

    I took a bunch of these.
     
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    The article makes no mention of that.

     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It may not say it but that's what it is.

    Going to school in Arizona I took a bunch of classes from the Navajo perspective so yeah, it's normal to have classes like these and they are almost always electives.
     
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    Aside from anecdote, what are you basing your opinion on?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    5 years of college and seeing many classes like that.
     
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    How dare you study non-traditional classes in poli-science. I did also in college.
     
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    Chad Shomura
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    Assistant Professor
    POLITICAL SCIENCE <----------------

    There's nothing whatsoever to suggest it's an ethnic studies class... but ok.
     
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    As the article author suggest; no problem, but at least call it what it is, not "American Political Thought".
     
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    Its a political science course which is not required but rather the choice of the student. The course is to explore the voices of the historicity marginalized not reteach about well known figures in American history.

    Is strange how the same snowflakes that will be upset because a single course does not focus on repeating commonly held information (because of the color of their skin) are the same ones outraged when minorities want to even be mentioned.

    The course is not banning white students, it is not condemning white people, it is simply trying to explore the beliefs, thoughts, and attitudes of other Americans,

    What a world we live in
    Perpetual victims
    Everywhere
     
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    Might not be ethnic studies class but it's a focused class, it's not like they are replacing American history or anything.

    I took a class on environmental history once but it wasn't the history of the environment it was how the environment affected history. For example, had the weather been different during the civil war the outcome may have been different in some of the battles.
     
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    Wrong.

    It has nothing to do with being a snowflake or feeling like a victim. No mention is made anywhere of students being excluded, and I certainly never suggested such (did you read the article?).

    The focus of the article is the fact that the course is titled "American Political Thought", not “American life from the margins", or “perspectives from under-represented Americans.”, as the article author points out. Again, as the author points out, it'd be all fine and well if the course were properly titled or perhaps placed in a different department.

    It's perfectly reasonable to question why all white men from the history of American politics would be removed from a course entitled "American Political Thought".

    What's unreasonable is that people would run in illogical circles trying to justify the illogic.
     
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    That's at least understandable.

    Again, no problem with teaching American political thought from the perspective of non-whites, but either call it such, or teach literal American political thought.
     
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    Yea mod con, I think that's all it was and believe me if I thought it was something different I would be all over this....you know me.

    There is so much liberal crap going on in our colleges but that doesn't mean everything is.

    Good find though.
     
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    :handshake:

    I should've added this to the OP -

    That coupled with intentionally removing the foundational thought of whites who settled this nation (oh boy, I'm gonna catch hell for that one), is highly suspect... beyond sjw-ish.
     
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    Why does it matter what the course is called? It is a course on “American Political Thought”, just not the type of thought you associate with American history. The course title is neither incorrect or discrimitory against “whites”. Courses have descriptions and if a student is too lazy to read it they can turn around and drop the class, just like your source did.

    It’s absolutely a snowflake whine.
     
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    This is the description of the course:

    “This course aims to develop an understanding of American political life from the margins. Rather than surveying traditional figures of American political thought, it attends to historically marginalized voices at the crossings of race, gender, sexuality, and nation. It explores issues such as intersectionality, antiblack racism and the American Dream, ordinary life, borderlands and migration, public feelings, mental health, and settler colonialism. The materials we examine also exceed the usual genres of American Political Thought. They include, among other things, poems, an ethnography, academic articles, a novel, and a hacked tarot card set.”

    Anyone who is stupid enough to sign up for the course without knowing what it is about, and then complaining about the title or the content, should be in college.
     
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    Why does it matter what the course is called?

    Alrighty!
     
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    Sounds sexist to me.
     
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    Yep, I'm aware of the description.

    Tell me, if you could quantify American political thought, what percentage of that thought would be representative of the course materials?

    Why not just label it properly, or teach it properly?
     
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    I think the professor is racist, but it's the good kind of racism being presented under the auspices of 'woke progressivism'.
     
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    So you are outraged about the name of the course? Even though the course description is crystal clear about the content?
     
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    Do I honestly seem outraged to you? No need to be disingenuous.

    How about the question I put forth?
     
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    Race is race and sex is man and women.
     
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    Yes. You said it was insane.

    The whole course seems to be about American Political Thought. Not the entire spectrum of American Political Thought, but the course description clarifies that.

    If you don't like it, write a letter to your Congressman.
     
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