Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

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Are some US and British media outlets biased on Israel & Paelstine?

  1. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Israel.

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  2. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in favour of Palestine.

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  3. I have no reason to believe that some US and British media outlets are biased on Israel & Paelstine.

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  4. Yes, some US and British media outlets are biased in either direction.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Saying that, "the media deceive the American people" is more specific than, "outlets which are guilty of fake news are the enemy of the people?" Surely you can't be serious! Your statement is FAR more general!
     
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  2. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I thought that you were comparing the two phrases:
    "The press is the enemy of the people"
    To
    "MSM deceives the American people"
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know that Friedman's claim is true based on AP's rebuttal statement & Friedman's anti Palestinian - pro Israel bias.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    What rebuttal?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Even if I was, aren't they BOTH as general as eachother? Is there anything specific about either of them?
     
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    Both are general but "the press" is more general than the more specific "MSM" which excludes independent media.
     
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    Did Trump say "the press" when talking about the enemy of the people?
     
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    I don’t know about the British media, but 99% of our media takes it’s marching orders from the DNC. Want to know the US media’s biases, just look up democrat talking points.
     
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    This one that was cited by Wikipedia:

    Matti Friedman
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Friedman
    EXCERPT "AP issued a statement, saying that Friedman's "... arguments have been filled with distortions, half-truths and inaccuracies, both about the recent Gaza war and more distant events. His suggestion of AP bias against Israel is false"CONTINUED
     
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    I'm sorry that I don't know his exact quote(s) concerning the press but I do remember that he was/is especially scornful of CNN.

    What, specifically, would you like to know?
     
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    I'm just making the point, that if Trump went around saying, as you have said, that the mainstream media is deceiving the American people, he would have gotten NO LESS backlash than he has received by calling them the enemy of the people, which he has qualified on numerous occasions as specifically media outlets that are guilty of fake news.
     
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    @Grau, any complaints regarding the recent coverage?
     
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    To be honest, I haven't been following the recent flare up between Israel & Gaza as closely as I usually do but historically, MSM promulgates a chronic & blatant pro Israel - anti Arab bias & simply parrots what Israeli officials report.

    I doubt that Israel's "Provoke-then-massacre" M.O. for ethnic cleansing has changed:

    "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."

    http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm
     
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    What does this have to do with the current Israeli government?
     
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    @Grau, after the Omar/Tliab Israel ban coverage, do you still stand by your assertion that the media is biased in favour of Israel?
     
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    Sorry for the delay.
    Just since yesterday, I've got about 11 people who have quoted me and would like responses.

    From what I've read about it so far, yes, I still believe that especially US MSM has an egregious pro Israel bias.
     
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    So they have largely supported Israel's position?
     
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    Of course they are. News media always has a bias. What direction that bias leads is of course dependent on their personal views. And while I have no problem with the bias itself I have a problem when that bias is so strong that it over rides neutrality that is what News Media is SUPPOSED to be about. In other words when that bias is so patently obvious that any rational person would not notate it down and take it into account when forming their decisions.
     
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    Is the bias NOT "patently obvious?"
     
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    Okay lets understand something here all media are biased in one direction or the other. Why because human beings are involved. There are certain fields people don't get into if they don't have some sort of axe to grind journalism is one of them. By the way since they started referring to themselves as journalists instead of reporters the bias has only gotten worse. The difference and the inherent silliness of the journalistic school is obvious. The reporter's job is to ascertain the facts, who, what, when, where, and why. Journalist like journal writers are vastly more concerned with how they feel about the facts and the actual facts themselves are of relatively small concern and the why is then predetermined to suit the feelings of the journalist with little regard to what the facts actually are.
     
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    Isn't 'reporting' an aspect of 'journalism?'
     
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    It should be. Unfortunately these days facts seem to be entirely secondary to feelings. It should be the other way around. Feelings should begin with the actual facts. The facts should not be conformed to suit you preexisting feelings.
     
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    Are you implying that US and maybe some British media are biased? The hell you say! Say it isn't so!
     
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    On both sides....yes.
     

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