England is all set up to become a driving force in the world economy.....

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Is England all set up to rival Hollywood?

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  1. Denizen

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    Cambridge GDP growth rate was only 2.19% which is hardly earth-shattering. It might even be zero if the population growth rate is considered in the determination of GDP per person.

    The use of England in the title of this string is itself elitist because it immediately degrades the rest of the UK.

    However, the UK is evidently going backwards with the Brexit debacle.
     
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    Another car manufacturer pulling out of the UK. Honda is one of a number who are scaling down or withdrawing.

    The driving force of the UK appears outbound, not inbound.

    There is some good news. No pork pie manufacturers are withdrawing from manufacturing in the UK.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Co...ource=NAR Newsletter&utm_content=article link

     
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    Theoretical question from here: Was the pound overvalued before the EU referendum? (dated 2016)

    Excerpt:

    How is the pound doing vis-a-vis the Euro? See "Monthly high/low Bp to Euro (1999 to present)", here. In Dec. 2008 the BP took a dangerous slide downwards - cutting itself from 1.4 to the Euro down to about 1.14, with a strange boost from March to December of 2005 back up to , and then falling back into the 1.14 range (where it remains).

    Is the BP "stuck" there at its historical bottom?

    It need not be, but leaving the EU is most certainly not going to help matters ....
     
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    The GBP has been consistently over-priced which is why George Soros made a Billion dollars betting against the GBP.

    After a hiatus from 1989, the GBP has recommenced its slide downward. In 1953 it was USD 2.8 = 1 GBP. Its heading toward parity.

    The UK has opened a Pandora's box with Brexit.

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    Britain's top trading partners:
    Soros did not make a billion dollars and he had insider information just before a British interest-rate movements announcement from "a friend" close to government authorities at the time.

    There are many versions of this story, and the above is what I "heard" at the time. Nothing has been proven.

    Yes, indeed ...
     
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    There are more consequences from Honda's withdrawal. Loss of supply chain infrastructure could damage the whole auto industry.

    There is one cheerful aspect. Pork pie manufacturers are unlikely to quit the UK. No other country would accept these terrible foods.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Co...ource=NAR Newsletter&utm_content=article link

     
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    The UK-voter listened to the Brexiteers and now they are paying for their folly.

    There's justice in what is happening in the UK, and the rest of Europe is watching with a very keen eye at the ... wretched economic mess being caused by Brexit.

    Somebody, anybody, QUICK! Get that woman out of Downing Street ... !
     
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    I'm expecting my South London community to become a boring ghost town if/when the local Tesco closes... (nothing lasts forever).
    Post Brexit UK might suck.
     
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    But when that line is spoken by somebody with an English accent.......
    or a French accent.....
    or an Australian accent.......
    it is received differently here in Canada or in the USA than if it spoken by one of our own.

    A South African accent could be especially valuable ARTISTICALLY at this time under these circumstances.........

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...field-theory-of-m-w-p.548225/#post-1070050517


     
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    Economically a cheaper pound-sterling (as shown above) should help exports! But that aint-gonna-happin in Europe (not tomorrow, at least).

    From Europa.eu:
    That 1.3% growth rate is a piddling amount and wont help lower an already low EU-unemployment rate of 2.8%! The EU can live with that rate, with the exception of some countries. Like THE "southern EU" where unemployment rates are much higher and really needed growth (which will not now happen) to lower higher unemployment rates.

    See list of EU unemployment-rates by country here.

    So, what does the EU need to get itself back to a realistic and acceptable (meaning low-inflation) economic growth?

    Answers please ...
     
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    My apologies if I am wrong but one possible answer to this is to
    begin to better grasp the potential ARTISTIC value in the history of England........

    For example.... I read about a Protestant aristocrat in Ireland who donated
    many thousands if not tens of thousands of pounds sterling to missionaries in India while
    hundreds of Irish Catholics were starving to death within a couple of kilometers of his mansion.

    The English..... for all of their many, many, many, many , many flaws.......
    are arguably one of the best people on earth at looking objectively and honestly at
    their GUILT... and SHAME.....
    and attempt to come up with the answer to exactly how and why they or their ancestors went off track
    ethically, morally, philosophically and theologically.

    This is the type of specific situation that could turn that particular mansion...... into a STAGE....
    which should greatly increase the value of the real estate there.......
    and.... in the kilometers of land around that mansion / STAGE.

    This could create film production jobs....... in several genre's......... that have ECONOMIC VALUE that will grow over the coming decades and centuries rather than be limited to one or two or three fiscal quarters.

    Those types of films could be used to set the stage even for a massive shift in the economy of the Middle East........

    Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?

     
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    Try googling that above. I did. Nothing came up.

    If it can't be verified with a concordance with other "recognized fact", it can't be debated either ...


    And I suggest you get a handle on EUROPEAN history.

    The British Royals and Protestants did nothing that was not done by a good number of people after the Roman Empire disintegrated and everybody started fighting for the scraps.

    And it did not at all help that religion poked its nosey-nose into political affairs. The number of people who died in Europe because they did not pray to the "Correct Christ" is unimaginable. After all, some ignorant people thought it was a "good idea" to die for "their god" because it was a short-cut to a "supposed heaven".

    History must be taken with a grain of salt. Interesting, but not the least bit appropriate for justifying either present or future beliefs - whether political or religious ...

    Religion is something deeply personal and one can never expect all beliefs to be the same. Not on this earth, at least.

    Where one is born very largely determines the religious beliefs in which they are inculcated. Thankfully, the US was the First Country to understand that religious belief has different colours and each should chose their own colour.

    And it certainly should not matter what "religious colour" you prefer to wear. If it does, then it interferes with "freedom of belief" - which is the dearest of all freedoms ...
     
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    It should be freedom from belief
     
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    Do you mean by this that one should be free to be Agnostic or Atheist if they choose to be?

    Frankly........ I do agree with you that being an Agnostic or Atheist is a perfectly valid choice ahead of each of us. I was an Atheist basically from 1966 or '67 to 1972 or '73.

    Around that time I ran into information related to:


    Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?


    For the record.... the results of the poll so far have both a positive as well as a negative side.

    On one level............. the England of one century ago would certainly have had citizens willing and able to attempt to rival Hollywood or Washington on any challenge so.......... the poll indicates something like INSECURITY or feelings of INFERIORITY....... which sounds very un-British to me?????!!!!

    On the plus side... the poll may indicate something somewhat along the line of HUMILITY and.....

    Pro 18:12

    Before destruction the heart of a man is haughty,
    And before honor is humility.

    Pro 22:4

    By humility and the fear of the LORD
    Are riches and honor and life.


    Pro 15:33

    The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom,
    And before honor is humility.

    Which brings us back to my premise from the opening post doesn't it?



    Is England all set up to rival Hollywood?





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    The only Yes vote so far.... was me..... a Canadian?!
     
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    A major element of GDP growth is population growth. The UK has a population growth rate of around 0.6% while the EU has a population growth rate of around 0.06% with some EU countries actually shrinking in population.

    But population growth is not the total answer because China has a population growth rate of around 0.6% but has a GDP growth rate of 6+%.

    In the absence of population growth as a driver of GDP expansionary government fiscal and monetary policy promotes GDP growth. In that regard, the UK and EU governments are so indebted they have little freedom of action in regard to both fiscal and monetary policy.

    Prognosis: UK is stuffed after making a meal of Brexit.
     
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    And who decides the blameworthy for that "heinous crime"?

    You ... ?

    PS: You are playing-with-words and that's a dangerous game.
     
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    Cutting oneself off from a major importer of goods/services is about as brainless an idea as any country can suffer. Because of what? The mainland EU were not eating enough British cheese? Not enough Scotch? Not enough what?*

    Brexit will become the bane of Britain. (Alliteration yes, but true nonetheless ...)

    *The answer to that question goes back into British history a long, long time ago. Probably to that time when, in fact, its King was French and the court spoke French? (From here.)
     
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    The facts are actually clear ... but for some unknown reason, the Bexit supporters believe in some irrational dream concepts.

    40% of British exports go to the EU ... with a no deal in the future with the usual EU tariff in the EU! In no case will this jeopardize any jobs in the UK ... or only insignificantly few and more new jobs will be created. Just ask yourself where and which ... there is no answer to this legitimate!

    The adventurous answers go from the nonsense of a helping Commonwealth to Donal Trump's going to make a fair trade deal with us.

    That says everything ...
     
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    The UK's trade with the rest of the world has been increasing by an order of magnitude better than with the EU. Of course, the EU is not coming all that fast out of the Great Recession dumped on it by the US. But the EU can be blamed that its uptake, now that the recession is over, is a great deal slower than it was for the US when it exited the recession in 2016. The share of UK exports accounted for by the EU has fallen over time from 55% in 2006 to 43% in 2016.

    My point being that the Brits are are now Very Much Afraid of a recession reoccurring - as well they should be. Perhaps the Brexiteers took advantage of that factual coincidence to help persuade voters that the EU was "simply no longer worth the effort". Could be.

    But long-term the EU is a far more stable client, right next door, and that now is being greatly damaged by increased tariffs that become applicable. The Brits have a lot for which they are going to very, very sorry economically-speaking.

    Some hardheads have to learn the hard way ...
     
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    MOREOVER

    From here: How much is the UK-EU trade worth?

     
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    We can lessen it and increase trade into US in the event of a UK US trade deal, it is 2019. We have ways of transporting across the world if we have to.
     
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    Freedom of religion, should be freedom from religion, especially in the US.
     
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    And that will happen over night ?
     
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    Nothing happens over night, but it won't happen in the EU.
     
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    Save it for Germany.
     

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