500 Billion A Year For Defense?

We understand it now. You simply appeal to ignorance. Even wo-men can do that.

 

What appeal to ignorance? The word "socialism" didn't even come into existence until 1832.

 

Well, the UN is not a military alliance in any way, shape or form. And I feel that abandoning NATO (the most successful alliance in history) would be a staggeringly huge mistake.

 

we are quibbling social-ism. Look it up in a dictionary and don't appeal to ignorance.

 

We should be making money on public policies not losing money. What is your opinion of a Deylicate of (historic) Palestine?

 

What appeal to ignorance? You are claiming the Constitution as written supports socialism, when socialism wasn't even a concept that existed when it was written.

 

no. i am claiming you can only appeal to ignorance if you don't understand the problem. why waste the Peoples' money on worthless public policies?

 

But that isn't what you are claiming. You are claiming that Congress doesn't have the power to make the wars that it has. Constitutionally, they most definitely do.

 

should we consult an Aedile?

 

that is your straw man argument. as a federalist, you must know i have to claim the scope of the general powers as the express limits to our form of socialism.

 

Except there are no "general powers". What you keep quoting as "general powers" is just the introduction to Article 1 Section 8. The actual powers are in the clauses that follow it.

 

Yes, these general powers are the scope of our Constitution and supreme law of the land.

 

To provide for the general welfare is not to provide for the general malfare, or general badfare, nor the general warfare.

 

So if Article 1 Section 8 Clause 1 already gives them all the powers they would need for "providing for the common defense" why does Article 1 Section 8 even have a clause 11 through 13?

 

More meaningless word salad. Is this really your idea of good debate technique?

 

the common defense is not the common offense or general warfare. our Constitution is express, not implied.

you need to Prove that our welfare clause General, can provide no solution, first.

 

Right, so why does Article 1, Section 8 even include clauses 11 to 13 if all the power Congress needs is right there in clause 1?

 

to me, it usually means we may need to ask an Aedile.

 

our welfare clause cannot be as the right wing claims, a general grant of power to make up implications as they wish, but only those expressly declared.

 

Why are you refusing to answer my question? Is it because it pokes massive holes in the logic you are trying to use?

 

which question is that?

only the right wing is confused about the scope of the general powers, with all of the examples and qualifications our Founding Fathers gave us.

 

Why does Article 1, Section 8 even include clauses 11 to 13 if all the power Congress needs for common defense is right there in clause 1?

 

they are examples and qualifications, did you miss it?

only the right wing alleges a welfare clause General cannot cover every Thing, but a common defense clause, allegedly can.

 

No, the Right rightfully points out that Congress is given the authority to make war with no qualifications on that authority in clause 11. General welfare cannot cover every thing.

BTW, I'm not a rightist.

 

it does have qualifications; it is not an independent grant of power for right wing bigotry.