socialism ain't free stuff

Here's a quote that sums it up neatly too: "Don't pick a fight with an 800-pound gorilla."

Maduro could end the siege with a snap of his fingers, but let's keep pretending it's all The Great Satan's fault.

 

Not always the case. See, for example, the consequences of natural monopoly. However, I made no reference to government control. I referred to worker control, which has been found to increase productivity (unsurprisingly)

Public good and merit good provision is certainly a positive. However, without genuinely changing the economic paradigm, the gains aren't fully achieved.

 

I'm not particularly a fan of flippancy when we know, without any doubt, that American policy is killing people.

 

Your post has nothing to do with mine. Yours is commentary on acceptability of slavery by populations as a percentage. Mine was pointing out how countries with the greatest percentage of the population having income equality also have black markets.

You like theory, I prefer reality. If you socialists spent as much time practicing your art as peddling it you may get somewhere. I’ve not had one advocate for socialism/Marxism demonstrate to me they are more actively involved in such practices than me. And I’m not a big fan...

 

I'll leave you to hash out the whole 'Venezuela starvation myth' with this guy:

 

The creation of economic activity through individualism, self employment, and firm creation are the antithesis of socialism.

 

NOT the elites...

 

And trump's seems to be "its everybody else's fault". go figger.

And for damn sure there's no reason for trumpettes to refute that primary plank of his failed administration.

oh look ironic whataboutery,

 

Red herring. I've referred to the UN fellow and his focus on issues such as medicine supplies.

 

You need to brush up on your understanding of socialism.

 

Since you got it 180 degrees out of phase, I think you are the one that needs some remedial education. My guess is you are conflating socialism with social studies and social works. With the government ownership of all production and distribution, AKA socialism, self employment and firm creation are virtually impossible and there is very little incentive for individual creation of economic activity.

 

That's why the Soviet union had such a vibrant and efficient economy.

 

A lot of words to say nothing relevant! Read Burczak's post-hayekian market socialism.

 

State Capitalist

 

So now the Soviet Union wasnt far enough left?

 

It wasn't socialist. Sorry reality doesnt fit into your Mccarthyism education

 

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics wasnt socialist? Talk about revisionist history.


And the insults arent really warranted.

 

I'm familiar with Burczak. To be charitable let me just say he too is conflating socialism and social justice. As many have since discovered if you dress up socialism in incompatible social justice clothing people like that better and it makes it easier to get the iron-fisted socialism in place. He says we would have socialism with free market enterprise and just ignores the two are antithetical and plops them both down in his dreamworld nirvana. It is called deviating socialism down. Then he says we will eliminate the capitalism nature but having all enterprises employee owned with very little practical insight on how that is suppose to work exactly. Hint: it doesn't.

 

You don’t even know what democratic socialism means but it’s a scary word to you. Educate yourself and learn about it. Maybe we should get rid of socialism here like no more public schools, no more cops, police, no more food inspections and infrastructure. Too socialistic!

 

No that wasn’t Barack Obama’s mantra. It was the mantra that the right made up and imposed on Obama. But you keep fighting for the rich and I have to assume that you are very very wealthy if not you’re going against your own self interest. I am lucky to be in a top bracket so I thank you very much for fighting for me to keep more money that I don’t really need

 

Yes, mr McCarthy

 

When will people understand? It's not Socialism... it's not capitalism... it's not libertarianism...

Ideology is not the problem. The problem are ideologues!!!

You mention socialism to a hard core right-winger, and they talk about the dead bodies in Fidel's Cuba, Stalin's Russia, Mao's China.... You talk capitalism to a left-winger, and they tell you all about the dead bodies Capitalism created in Pinochet's Chile, Somoza's Nicaragua, Franco's Spain...

But it's not socialism or capitalism. Ideologues are the problem. Those who believe that some ideology is going to solve all their problems and, therefore, their ideology is more important than morals, then human decency, and than human life

The solution is in all ideologies. They all have something to contribute. What particular solution we adopt for a particular problem depends on the circumstances. Not if it's socialist or capitalist or libertarian or liberal or conservative... Its if it is the correct solution for the particular problem we want to solve. If we start thinking like that, what we will learn is that the solution will always be a combination of ideologies.

 

by force of law.

Socialism has a compulsory nature. There is no such thing as voluntary socialism.

 

I keep trying to get the resident socialists to practice what they preach but to no avail. The fact they don’t gives the game away.

 

The insult was yours. You'll be saying Hitler was socialist next...