Trump Accuses Democrats Of 'Executing Babies After Birth

Therein lies your problem, you are convinced of a lie. Your statement is false. If the mother's life is in danger then the fetus can be removed provided all efforts possible are made to save the child as well. Then and only then. What has changed by the new law is simply that a pregnant women is no longer required to carry an nonviable fetus to term and to allow her to save her own life. Before, even if there was no heartbeat, the woman legally had to carry the dead fetus to term and if her life was threatened the law said baby first and try to save the mother ie the mother had to commit suicide.

 

Abortion lobbyists admit that most late-term abortions are done on healthy mothers carrying healthy babies. Guttmacher Institute statistics confirm that "most women seeking later terminations are not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment." Instead, data suggest that “most women seeking later abortion fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-term-abortion-are-grown-up-and-speaking-out


its you that has been lied too

 

The operative work is seeking not getting and they still won't get under the new laws or any proposed law that I've ever heard.

 

Having a pathological lying psychopath as president? Yes, Paul, that's a bad thing. We should expect more intelligence from our President than we expect from raving hobos on the street.

 

It is okay for a family to end life support for a terminal family member over which they have guardianship. Which is what this is actually about. They have no obligation to prolong the life of a child that isn't going to survive anyway.

 

Not legalized murder.

 

So you think a baby is the same as a terminal patient? I suppose if you leave a baby in a progressives hands. Very Gosnell of you.

 

Murdering people was also legal in Germany at one time.

 

A terminally ill baby is a terminal patient. I see your lack of interest in relaying the political opinions of others honestly extends to the forum as well.

 

Reading comprehension fail #2. And a fake Nazi comparison too boot.

 

Abortion lobbyists admit that most late-term abortions are done on healthy mothers carrying healthy babies.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-term-abortion-are-grown-up-and-speaking-out

you are wrong again

 

We aren't talking about terminally ill babies but babies born alive after a botched abortion. Two states now allow abortion up until moment of birth.

 

"Until the moment of birth" means UNTIL, not AFTER.

 

After is where they allow the killing of the baby in those two states.

 

That's the opposite of what you said in your last post, so which is it and can you quote the law?

 

i realize that this is an older post, but I was reading back in the thread and I just have to respond to this bizarre post. WHERE in God's name did you get the idea that all these perfectly healthy fetuses are being aborted late term, surviving and then being murdered? That is one of the more ridiculous RW fantasies I have heard. That anyone real believes it is even more ridiculous than the stupid "baby killing conspiracy". Nobody has a late term abortion unless the mother's health is being compromised or the fetus is not viable or has some horrible disease or birth defect. Nobody changes their mind in the third trimester. I really am curious though ... where did you get this ludicrous idea from?

 

Abortion lobbyists admit that most late-term abortions are done on healthy mothers carrying healthy babies. Guttmacher Institute statistics confirm that "most women seeking later terminations are not doing so for reasons of fetal anomaly or life endangerment." Instead, data suggest that “most women seeking later abortion fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-term-abortion-are-grown-up-and-speaking-out

An Abortion Rights Advocate Says He Lied About Procedure
A prominent member of the abortion rights movement said today that he lied in earlier statements when he said a controversial form of late-term abortion is rare and performed primarily to save the lives or fertility of women bearing severely malformed babies.

He now says the procedure is performed far more often than his colleagues have acknowledged, and on healthy women bearing healthy fetuses.

Ron Fitzsimmons, the executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, said he intentionally misled in previous remarks about the procedure, called intact dilation and evacuation by those who believe it should remain legal and ''partial-birth abortion'' by those who believe it should be outlawed, because he feared that the truth would damage the cause of abortion rights.

But he is now convinced, he said, that the issue of whether the procedure remains legal, like the overall debate about abortion, must be based on the truth.

In an article in American Medical News, to be published March 3, and an interview today, Mr. Fitzsimmons recalled the night in November 1995, when he appeared on ''Nightline'' on ABC and ''lied through my teeth'' when he said the procedure was used rarely and only on women whose lives were in danger or whose fetuses were damaged.
https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/26/us/an-abortion-rights-advocate-says-he-lied-about-procedure.html

 

Well, since the Deplorable-in-Chief is a consummate liar, I won't believe a word of it until I see the bill. It's given as an "anti-abortion bill so that's what I believe it is at the point. And Trump is pig scum.

 

Just one more piece of extremist propaganda from the President & the ultra-right. Another in a long line of propagandist moves to undermine America's right to disagree without conflict. Trump LOVES conflict & lies constantly to start it.

No one--and I mean NO ONE--is promoting or supporting the killing of newborns for ANY reason. This is just lies & propaganda to distort the truth, elicit fear & anger in voters, & divide us as a people. I just hope nobody is stupid enough to fall for it.

 

Source? Where did this ridiculous b.s. come from? Russia?

 

I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to believe it, but apparently there are those gullible fools who do. Probably the supermarket newspaper crowd who believe in lizard people and the "Deep State" and Q-Anon. Nobody is going to carry a child until the last couple months and then change her mind and decide to get an abortion. No one is going to do that, even if the law would allow it, but changing one's mind is not an acceptable reason for late term abortion. Someone is very gullible, and it isn't either of us. The info probably came from some right wing blog

 

Isn't it interesting that the right must spin and twist and lie about EVERYTHING in their wheelhouse. They just can't get what they want with the truth.

 

gave you the source can you not read?
its at the bottom of the article
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-term-abortion-are-grown-up-and-speaking-out

and its source is the Guttmacher Institute
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1363/4521013

and who is the Guttmacher Institute

The Guttmacher Institute is a research organization started in 1968 that works to study, educate, and advance sexual and reproductive health and rights.[1][2] The organization works mainly in the United States but also focuses on developing countries.[2] The Guttmacher Institute uses studies to help support policy making and program reform.[2] The Institute is named after obstetrician-gynocologist and the former president of Planned Parenthood, Alan F. Guttmacher.[3] The Guttmacher Institute has many sources of funding nationally and internationally.[2] One of the Institute's biggest projects is keeping a running list of the reproductive health laws and policies throughout the United States.[2]

The Guttmacher Institute has no political affiliation. Although their mission supports reproductive health, which also includes abortion, the organization is nonpartisan. The data released by the Guttmacher institute are respected, considered accurate, and used in media and by supporters of different political ideologies.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guttmacher_Institute

does any of that sound like Russia to you?

 

Oh, sadly, there are people who are stupid enough to fall for it......and claim it as truth with no proof whatsoever as their leader is stupid enough to claim wind mills cause cancer because they're so noisy with no proof whatsoever.

 

Murdering people isn't legal here.

No people are murdered in abortion...if one believes that then one has no knowledge of science and law whatsoever.