Just how intelligent are Trump supporters?

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  1. navigator2

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    I wouldn't know. Perhaps you should ask Mueller. What does winter do to the half life of yellow cake uranium? I'm sure he still has some samples.
     
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    1) What's wrong with invading Mexico. We've done it before.
    2) Why must we "defend" President Trump when almost nothing you've claimed he has done is a crime by any reasonable measure.
     
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    let the trucks through and charge every car $5.00 a head inside to cross into the U.S.
     
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  4. Sandy Shanks

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    • October 10, 2016 in Wilkes-Barre, PA: "This just came out," Trump said. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks."
    • October 12, 2016 in Ocala, FL: "This WikiLeaks stuff is unbelievable," Trump said. "It tells you the inner heart, you gotta read it."
    • October 13, 2016 in Cincinnati, OH: "It's been amazing what's coming out on WikiLeaks."
    • October 31, 2016 in Warren, MI: "Another one came in today," Trump said. "This WikiLeaks is like a treasure trove."
    • November 4, 2016 in Wilmington, OH: "Getting off the plane, they were just announcing new WikiLeaks, and I wanted to stay there, but I didn't want to keep you waiting," said Trump. "Boy, I love reading those WikiLeaks."
    • April 11, 2019, Washington, D.C.: "I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It’s not my thing."


     
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    I am talking about Presidential criticism, not a crime.
     
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    Why should a supporter of President Trump feel obligated to defend him against any and all criticism.

    You can post anything on this forum that is a criticism of President Trump. That doesn't mean its worth replying to.
     
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    Vet1966 said:
    "You still can't figure out that he says many of these things with the express purpose of stringing along the idiots who believe what he says."

    That is an extremely interesting statement. You know Trump very well. You also know we are talking about the President of the United States, whom you support.

    We are in agreement. In the case of Trump, some of us are idiots for actually wanting to believe our President.

    In terms of Trump's supporters, I believe you just proved my point. Thank you again.
     
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    Right, there is no reason why you should defend your decision to support Trump in light of all the criticism.

    More and more of Trump's supporters feel that way. I wonder why. It is natural for a person to defend one's decisions in the face of criticism. After all, everyone here joined a discussion group.

    But that is not true of Trump's supporters.
     
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    You can't get over the fact that the President is a genius pulling the puppet strings of all of the left wing whackos and anti-Trump pundits. He has all of the haters chasing their tails like a bunch of flea ridden mutts - exhausting themselves while going no-where. He wins and wins and keeps on winning no matter how much criticism and insults and accusations you people throw at him.

    Both foreign and domestic fronts are coming back into the shadow of the USA.

    The EU, China and Russia are making all kinds of noise and failing to maintain a status quo that's favored them for decades. Trade treaties are being renegotiated to favor the USA and all of those countries that want to continue to do business with the USA must meet President Trumps demands. Iran has been castrated and is capable of doing little outside of baseless threats followed by some chest beating. NK has not had any nuclear tests or fired any rockets and is making some nice gestures that might - or might not bloom into a beautiful relationship

    The Congress with Liddle Adam Schitt, Fatboy Nadler, Wicked Witch Pelosi, Cryin' Chuck Schumer, and all of the other Congressional cartoon characters has lost the witch hunt and are making a lot of noise as they throw one tantrum after another making themselves look even more foolish every time they make another vow to end Trump. All words with little realism and no actions.

    The Democrats have replaced the Ringling brothers and Barnum & Bailey as the best circus with the most colorful clowns in town.

    Can you believe that AOC is the future of the Democrat Party?

    I wonder why you ignore the Congressional and fake news clown shows to focus on the man who has Made America Great Again? Whet is it about President Trump that makes you feel so insecure?
     
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    I love this guy. He proves my point with every post. Speaking of stupidity ...

    The Washington Post reported that on two occasions — in November and again in February — the White House had tried to pressure Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials to deposit immigrant detainees in “sanctuary cities.”

    This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion,”
    the White House said.

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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump


    Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only....
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump


    ....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!

    9:38 AM - Apr 12, 2019

    The Trump fan above is right. When our President makes a complete idiot of himself, that tends to bother normal Americans.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    To give you some idea how stupid Trump is, he has done this before, making outrageous statements -- in this case suggesting that his help break our laws -- to endear himself to his base while pissing off everyone else. His base loves this stuff, even though they know these things never happen. They aren't nearly as stupid as Trump.

    Just how stupid is that? Trump's base consists of roughly 35 to 40% of the electorate. As the 2018 mid-terms showed, that is not enough to win general elections. Despite that obvious fact, Trump makes no attempt to broaden his support beyond his base. He does the very opposite. Because they are attention getters, his outrageous statements infuriates the other 60% of the American electorate, driving them away.

    From a politician's standpoint, you can't get any more stupid than that.
     
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    "Just how intelligent are Trump supporters?"
    "Stupid", "idiots"

    Such a good thread.
     
  14. Sandy Shanks

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    The typical Trump fan. These are the kind of people Trump attracts with his surreal rhetoric.

     
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    As usual, you got it all wrong. "Stupid" and "idiot" refers to Trump, not his enlightened fans.

    Why don't you quit your whining and say something useful?
     
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    Midterms are not "general elections" by definition. And the party of the president almost always takes significant losses in the first regular congressional elections after he take power.
     
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    Why don't you stop using insults and make a point?
     
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    But isn't their problem there akin to ours? Short of actually shooting them dead there's not much they can do that will stop them.
     
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    Ever consider beating on a different drum? You lost....get over it.
     
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    I agree with the President that he should send asylum seeking illegal aliens to sanctuary cities where they are wanted. I

    don't want these disease carrying vermin living their parasitic criminal lives any where near my community. Why should I be forced to support foreigners who have never done a thing for this great nation. Before you go into some rant about you being a victim and me being a racist, islamophobic white nationalist, I point out my extreme dislike is for ALL illegal aliens, whether they are white or brown, Muslim or Christian is irrelevant - they are not Americans. I even consider Democrats to be Americans - and I like them even less than I like illegal aliens

    Sanctuary cities and states defy federal regulations with policies that protect illegal aliens while leaving American citizens on the losing side as the Americans pay more taxes and get fewer, more watered down services from schools, police departments and civic organizations who are strapped taking care of illegals.
    I don't understand why sanctuary city politicians aren't held responsible for every robbery, rape, assault and murder that illegal commit in these sanctuaries.
    I wonder when the voting American public will figure out that the Democrat Party no longer represents their best interests and get rid of these criminal politicians.

    Take a look at New York state where they recently passed legislation denying in-state tuition assistance to Gold Star families (those families with a loved who has died in military service) while approving tuition assistance to illegal aliens. WTF - They favor illegal aliens over Americans - and not just any Americans, but Gold Star American families. What about all of those other students who come from inner cities and are denied a shot at the American dream because they have been back doored by the Democrat Party that claims to support American minorities while throwing those very same minorities under the bus in favor of non-citizen criminals.

    You are wrong! President Trump is doing the job he was elected to do. Every day, more and more Americans want to see the vermin gone. Every day, the Democrats throw another victim under the bus as they protect illegal alien criminals while ignoring, or sometimes vilifying the victims.

    Here's a question for you; Why do you favor illegal aliens over regular working Americans and their families?
     
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    It seems you think only the unintelligent vote for Trump. Quite a lot of voters disliked both candidates, Trump won via the independent voter who really, really dislike Hillary a lot more than Trump. A lot of those who voted for Trump were anti-Clinton voters.

    Education wise there isn't much difference between 2012 and 2016. HS or less 51-45 to Trump, 51-48 to Obama. College grad, 49-44 to Clinton, 51-47 to Romney. The big difference was the third party vote in 2016 which was 6% of the voting electorate vs. 1.5% in 2012. HS or less rose three points, Trump over Romney's total. Not a huge difference. College grads is interesting. Trump did drop 7 points from Romney's total, but Clinton didn't gain much from that. She gained 2 points over Obama's, but 2/3rds of the college grads who deserted Trump didn't go to Clinton preferring to vote against both. Hillary wasn't that attractive to even college grads as her supporters and the left like to state. She won a plurality, not a majority.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

    http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president/

    Trump's base of support has always been around 35% of the total electorate, give or take a couple of points. That really hasn't change. Trump hasn't tried to enlarge it either, which is probably good news for democrats in 2020. But 2020 will boil down to whom the Democrats nominate. Candidates matter, a lesson that the Democrats in 2016 didn't apply. Will they in 2020? I don't know and at times I'm beginning to think not. Trump won because of independents, independents gave Trump the Oval Office and they aren't dumb. The key here is for the Democrats to nominate someone who can attract the independent voter. Hillary couldn't, didn't. 58% of independents voted against her. 46% for Trump, 12% third party against both Hillary and Trump.

    One word of advice for 2020, candidates matter.
     
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    Did you say you were a teacher?
     
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    Trump loves to draw attention to himself by making threats. He does not realize that he is making a complete fool of himself. Like the boy who cried wolf, we no longer believe his threats. We know it is just Trump, and there have been far too many meaningless threats.

    Trump made threats against NBC, says 'licenses must be challenged'

    Trump issued a direct threat to the media

    Trump threatened the media for its critical coverage

    Trump threatened North Korea with "fire and fury"

    Trump threatened another shutdown over the border wall

    Trump threatened our Constitution claiming he has the right to usurp the power of the purse from Congress.

    Trump threatened to impose a 25% tariff on $250B Chinese goods

    Trump threatened to close the southern border last week

    We are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities.

    Aw, it's just Trump. What an idiot.
     
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    Trump's supporters claim issuing threats is a tactic Trump uses to get things done. Great, someone tell me what he has accomplished with his threats. Because they accurately report what Trump says and does, the media is still going strong. Trump has since fell in love with Kim and North Korea continues to develop its missiles and bombs. The threat to our Constitution is very real, and one may ask if that is considered an accomplishment. Months after cancelling his tariff threat, there is still no deal with China.

    More than likely, Trump makes outrageous threats to draw attention away from a very serious problem he has -- the allegations contained in the Mueller Report. His hit man, Barr, has been far too obvious, and he is beginning to back down. Barr was forced to admit to Senators that he will not use redactions to hide the allegations against Trump.
     
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    Don't know about the threats, but I really like what the economy is doing.
     

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