Windmills!

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  1. clarkeT

    clarkeT Well-Known Member

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    The guy is a stone cold idiotic moron. Every time he opens his mouth pure horse s**t comes out of it.
     
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    Democrats love windmills. They know windmill power requires "wind" to work. As long as wind is needed, the hot air from the democrats will be of some use for once.
     
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    Windmills are great. In NO. Dakota, they turn them off to a full stop at -20°. Then they have to be heated with coal-fired electricity so the bearings remain useable which means the local farmers lose their power. The farmers then draw their farm power from their own diesel or gas powered generators which do not have all the anti-pollution requirements mandated as do automobiles.
    Great system, saves a lot of birds.
     
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    NOne too surprisingly neither you nor daily show guy no crap about wind power.
     
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    I can make them out of bamboo like on Gilligan's island .
     
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    What's better vawt or hawt?

    Sure does seem like a HAWT is the hot idea

    I hear vawts can be put as close as 1.65 d and you can get a higher wind energy concentration. Bunch more machines just smaller and easier

    Hawts create turbulence that interfere with each other and they have to be placed far apart down stream
     
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    There are a lot of birds killed by windmills. You look at them from a distance and those blades are lazily turning. However, the tips are moving on average about 120 mph and can hit speeds of 180 mph. A bird flying through them does not have a chance of evading the blades, if they are in the way.
     
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    Horizontal axis or vertical axis

    Wind turbine

    HAWT or. VAWT?
     
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    An airliner had to make an emergency landing after a bird strike recently?

    you're right the physics of any windmill is going to impact birdlife potentially big time

    Do you think birds use quantum mechanics to sense magnetic north

    Do you think certain species of birds might learn to thrive around the windmills? Yet to be ones that chased the bugs that get caught in it?
     
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    You're referring to the guy on the right Trevor Noah who the Daily Show tries to portray as a black guy ?

    I don't even think he's an American just another stone cold idiotic moron Mulatto foreigner.
     
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    I thought conservatives were rural people. Most range cattle drink from tubs of water, where the water was brought to the surface by windmill driven pumps. Those windmills are often featured in Western paintings.

    There is an advantage to attending college. There is a thing called potential energy. It can be thought of as energy storage. When the wind is blowing, the wind energy turns the blades which is kinetic energy. As one energy type can be converted to another, that kinetic energy can be converted to potential energy. Thus, when the wind is blowing, some of the kinetic energy can be saved as potential energy. Then, when the wind is not blowing, that potential energy can be turned into kinetic energy. A properly sized system could supply a constant flow of energy, regardless of wind strength at an one time. Knowledge is power.
     
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    It is in the blade design. Windmills with multiple blades don't have near the problem with birds. It is mostly those large single blade windmills.
     
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    Those windmills do not have to operate continuously. They pump water into water troughs or tanks. If the wind dies, the water in the tanks or troughs is still there. If the wind dies while generating electricity, if the wind dies, the electricity stops.
     
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    I have never saw one with a single blade. I am assuming you are referring to two blades opposing each other. As far as multiple blades go, I would have to see the data. It would appear that a bird would be more likely to get hit by multiple blades.
     
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    How much wind energy can we harvest without effecting the
    atmospheric thermal conveyor system.

    As vital as the oceanic thermal conveyors.


    Moi :oldman:




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    There are some problems with your discussion at least the way I read your discussion. . There is no energy conversion between the wind and windmills. The wind has kinetic energy and it transfers that kinetic energy to the windmills as kinetic energy Potential energy would be energy stored but is not moving. For example water behind a dam would be potential energy. As the water moves downhill, it becomes kinetic energy. When it turns the turbines, it is still kinetic energy. Surprisingly, electricity is also considered kinetic energy.
    The amount of energy contained in our atmosphere is virtually unlimited as it relates to windmills. The amount of energy withdrawn through the use of windmills is trivial.

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    In 12 years will it matter?
     
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    Yeah, when he said windmills caused cancer I couldn't believe any one could be so stupid.
     
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    I have heard the same thing. The windmills are usually in clusters and the generated electricity goes through a series of transformers boosting the voltage for transmission and converting the current to 60 cycle. . Those transformers and other electronics put out radiation.similar to radio waves. Whether it is any more than other generator plants is questionable.
     
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    The daily show from the liar Central Network? If South Park ends that channel is over.
     
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    How many acres of land would have to be given up to windmills for
    them to supply the nations power?

    Wouldn't that harm the environment?
     
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    Le everything else it depends on area conditions and applications. But that doesn't change the cost to manufacture them drastically and vawt are going to be vulnerable to a larger variety of weather effects. In either case you need battery back up for down times. If you go to them exclusive.
    By the way those giant salt towers are also hell on flying things. Anything flying between those reflective mirrors and that salt tower gets fried to a crisp in less time than it takes to tell of it.
     

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