Homeland Security unveils sweeping plan to deport undocumented immigrants

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by Steve N, Feb 21, 2017.

  1. ronv

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    I was responding to some internet tough guy that thinks we can just round them up.
    E-verify is an obvious solution. Why do you think it hasn't happened?
    Because people don't want it to happen. And actually they don't want it to happen for some fairly good reasons.
    Give those 10 million amnesty and that opposition goes away.
     
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    So rather than e-verify just give millions of people who've used fraudulent ID's to obtain employment (a felony), just give them amnesty? Ridiculous. They are criminals.
     
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    No. Ridiculous is thinking anyone (except maybe Trump) would suck about 7 1/2 million people out of the American economy.
     
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    Not to mention Trump's policies are attracting immigrants like flies to poop
     
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    gun free zones and job free zones?
     
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    So you oppose E-Verify to keep this illegal labor force in the American economy?
     
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    There has been a mismatch in the APC state index. BSOD error code 0x00000001 may also show "APC_INDEX_MISMATCH" on the same blue screen.
     
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    No, go back and read my original post on this.
    You need to make the existing illegal population legal first or it will never pass.
     
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    We have a Second Amendment which expressly declares what is Necessary to the security of our free States, not right wing expansive Government fantasy.
     
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    And why would it be up to Dems to revise the laws in our immigration system? Up until we were saddled with a racist executive office, Republicans were NOT anti-immigration. Asylum seekers were not villainized and referred to as invaders, criminals, rapists, etc. The Trump admin has used lies to create fear among those gullible fools who need someone else to blame for everything that has gone wrong in life. Since it is the paranoid party of Trump that has created this lie, why should Democrats be responsible for "fixing" a crisis which exists only in the dark racist minds of people like Trump, Steven Miller and their ilk.
    Most of us are not terrified of people who look or worship differently than we do. We are not so ignorantly paranoid as to believe that life would be better if we regressed to the 1950's. We are not so ignorantly racist that we would use human beings seeking a safer life for their children as political weaponry or threats of violence. Sometimes human decency demands bipartisan unity rather than tribalism. If Republicans can not see how disgusting Trump's threats of using people as weapons is, I can see no hope for the party existing much into the future.
     
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    What a difference a President makes.
    The RW tries to forget the gang of 8 bill they rejected under Obama.
    Just like Trump on DACA, they can't get past the path to citizenship.
     
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    Making the current illegal population legal has nothing to do with E-Verify.
     
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    Sure it does. They need jobs.
     
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    That's a problem for their home countries.
     
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    you won't get away with that in Any serious venues; why should i take you seriously now?
     
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    abolish our alleged wars on drugs and terror; they only create more refugees.
     
  18. ronv

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    Yeah, that's right wing thinking okay.
    If your good at math take about 8 million workers out of the economy and tell us all what happens.
     
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    I'm not asking you to take me seriously. You are simply a string of code that KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED

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    I know what happens...labor rates go up as employers attempt to replace their illegal employees with legitimate ones. It will be good times for low skilled and unskilled American workers.
     
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    I guess your not good at math. Are you a Trump advisor?
     
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    frivolous in this venue can be indicative of their overall policy goals or lack thereof.

    our Constitution is Express, not Implied by right wing fantasy in any way.
     
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    No, it is Trump who is attempting the weaponizing of asylum seekers against those who do not support his regime and his racist agenda. He first demonized all immigrants from both predominantly brown/black countries as well as from predominately Muslim countries. Now that he has painted these poor people as evil and blamed them for everything bad that happens in the lives of his base, he can use them to threaten those who would dare to stand against him. He is behaving irrationally, vindictively, and vengefully. He is also creating this newest battle with the dems in an attempt to divert attention from Mueller's report as well as build new tensions between his base and anyone who doesn't agree with his agenda because his base just loves them someone to be all pissed off at. They feed on hatred and anger.
     
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    How can you blame Democrats for the increased number of asylum seekers? How can it possibly be Dems responsibility when Trump is the person that has encouraged them to come now before he closes the border to all immigration. Democrats do not want open borders. That is just more of Trumps patented B.S. to cause anger and division. It's all he has to feed his base, he has nothing of substance to offer so he feeds them lies and gives them an enemy to target their hate and anger at.
     
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    The influx of immigrants occurred before Trump made that claim. Migration always increases when the economy does better. However, the democrats have made this worse because of sanctuary cities, talk of amnesty, and a path to citizenship. The democrats have provided them hope, that once the walls are up, they won't simply be deported.
     

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