Could the Holy Spirit - Holy Ghost = God the Mother?

It is up to you to think that if you wish but my understanding of LOGIC is that this is a really illogical answer to that poll:

"Carbon based life less than 5 billion years ago, on earth.
7 vote(s)
41.2%"

This on the other hand fits perfectly with chapter thirteen of "Stephen Hawking's Universe" that is entitled The Anthropic Principle and elaborates on the Cyclic Model of the Universe.


https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

Here are several more truly logical paragaphs:


http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund1.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

 

Irrelevent to the discussion.

 

To you at this time perhaps.......
but if you were to purchase a copy of "Stephen Hawking's Universe" .... skip to chapter 13 and read it....... you might just change your mind?

https://physicsworld.com/a/cyclic-universe-could-explain-cosmological-constant/
Cyclic universe could explain cosmological constant

https://www.edge.org/conversation/neil_turok-the-cyclic-universe

THE CYCLIC UNIVERSE
By Neil Turok [5.16.07]

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Has nothing to do with god.

 

"Nothing" perhaps..... but maybe it is closer to having EVERYTHING to do with G-d?!

https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

 

This may be the only thing you have posted here that I somewhat agree with, but I wonder if Stevenson's exposure to Theosophy in his youth may have introduced some bias into his research. Stevenson's research is only scientifically valid if it can be replicated by others.

 

I have been called many things in my life, and many or most of those descriptors were accurate. Why do you feel God must be limited to one descriptor? I think God is a part of everything, and would be happy to be called that part of everything you are conscious of at any given moment. I also don't think God has an ego like we do.

 

The Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow research was somewhat different....... but certainly along the same line as the Dr. Ian Stevenson research.

http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html

 

True.... but he spoke about the "Comforter" in a way that sure could allow for a woman to be the natural form of the Holy Spirit / Holy Ghost/ the Shekina Glory of G-d / Wisdom / or YHWH the Mother.


16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


Father Tom Roberts

An Uneventful Apparition
by Michelle Wiener | Sep 22, 2017 | Apostasy, Featured, Heavenly Mother, Jesus Christ, Mother in Heaven, Spiritual Experiences, the Spirit World, Why I Am Mormon | 2 comments


At the 1:38:00 mark in this audio is a meeting with a woman who called herself "Jerusalem Above Which is Free" and she sure sounds like the Holy Spirit/ the Comforter?

 

What concievable reason is there to belueve that if a god exists it would be in a form recognizable to humans. Does envisioning god in man's image have as much validity as ascribing human behaviors and thinking to animals?

 

A near death experiencer was shown that there are fourteen Elohim......
they spoke the words:

According to what she was shown the fourteen Elohim are the Seven Spirits of G-d
who are twins..... one male and one female......
and every human being who volunteers to come down into four dimensional space time gets one of these Elohim,.......
to record all their ideas, words, movements...... hairs on their head in each instant in time.......
which is used in:

Revelation 4:5
5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.




It isn't about us recognizing G-d or YHWH the Father or YHWH the Mother.....
it is about YHWH recognizing us!

This is her book:

https://www.auroraray.com/shop/i-am-god/




This is one of her videos:


Near death experiencer Christian was shown something comparable:

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

John 10:
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?


and....
Psalm 82

1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

 

Latter day Saint thinkers and writers have done a lot of research on this topic:

God’s Gender Identity Crisis
by Michelle Wiener | Jul 25, 2018

The Shoutout to Heavenly Mother You’ve Been Missing in 1 Nephi Chapter 11

By
Sydnee Gonzalez
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Jan 29, 2019

and....

Does God Have a Wife?
Alyson Skabelund Von Feldt

 

As stated many times there is a reson they call it a near death experience. There is no evidence whatsoever that NDE's are anyway relevent to what occurs after actual death.

 

Actually there is some evidence that they could well be real:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6172100/


Near-Death Experiences Evidence for Their Reality
Jeffrey Long, MD

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Line of Evidence #4


Near-death experiences that occur while under general anesthesia



Line of Evidence #5


Near-death experiences and life reviews




Line of Evidence #6


Encountering deceased loved ones in near-death experiences




Line of Evidence #7


Near-death experiences of young children






Line of Evidence #8


Cross-cultural study of near-death experiences



Line of Evidence #9


Near-death experience after effects

 

So, accepting the use of the word God here, as to pertain to the ultimate source of all things (?)

IT creates everything from ITself of ITself, without detracting or adding to ITself because IT is all there IS infinitely. ...so, IT, is everything, man woman father mother child dog leaf virus everything, you me him, yup, even him. God meetin God. No one part can look upon the whole but is no less a part of the whole.

So, if you "go for God" in any way and accept IT is infinite, whatever name youve given IT and whatever limitations you care to try to impose upon IT, perhaps consider that, as is obvious, something finite cant contain infinity, it is also true, that something infinite cannot contain something finite. Infinity is infinite in every direction and dimension, however it may appear from any one extremely limited perspective, like that of a tiny human mind, or a single planet or solar system.
Which way is up? Every way.
And where is the center? Everywhere.

Falling forever into a bottomless abyss. Hi, we meet again.

 

Hi Dan.... welcome to politicalforum!

What do you think of the idea of all things ultimately being formed out of fundamental energy Light AND fundamental energy Sound?


http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

Chain Henry Tejman M. D. whose hobby was Theoretical Physics did what I thought was an excellent job of laying the foundation for a more Theistic Version of Evolutionary Theory that would include some interesting evidence from parapsychology that we have been presented with over this last century or so.


http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

Back during the 1990's as I read some articles on Grand Unified Theory and String Theory
it was stated that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. was having difficulty fitting GRAVITY into the
mathematics.........
one possibility could be that there could be TWO fundamental forms of energy......
one the basis of light and the other the basis of sound??????

Super Strings that form LIGHT and Super Waves that form SOUND???

 

Sorry but you are once again confusing the evidence that NDE's are real with the issue of do they have any relevence to actual death.

That is sort of like comparing an acid trip with the existance of alternate realities.

 

Hey Daniel..... I so thank you for joining this forum.

As you and I were discussing all of this I was hit with a memory of a statement made by
Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to the Scribes and the Pharisees of his time period......

as was shown to near death experiencer Bruce F. MacDonald that I believe will get you thinking
and questioning on a productive angle of thought.

Page 215:

I have been fascinated by the possible power of us mere humans to alter the future in positive......
or indeed in negative ways.... especially since 1979 when I was twenty years of age.


Could the prophet Elijah have altered history if he had NOT........

 

I don't blame you one bit for being fearful of the almost obvious implications of this information / evidence.........

To my thinking.... it seems obvious that we human are highly unlikely to be the most technologically advanced species in the universe / Multiverse.

The majority opinion is not something we can simply agree with......
but it is obvious that the posters to this forum are far more well informed than the average Canadian, American or Brit!

Most of us as we answered the following poll were thinking in terms of extra-terrestrial intelligences...... but if the probability of EXTRA-DIMENSIONAL INTELLIGENCES was added to the equation....... .then traditional Atheistic Darwinian Evolutionary Theory is seen to be unlikely in the extreme...... in spite of the fact that it gave many of us some comfort for years or even decades. (In my own case I found comfort in Atheism from 1968 - 1973 and then I saw something very much like proof that traditional Atheism just was not logical).

Are we humans the most technologically advanced species in universe?


Are we humans the most technologically advanced species in the universe / Multiverse?

1. *
   Almost certainly not
   28 vote(s)
   66.7%
2. 
   Yes
   4 vote(s)
   9.5%
3. 
   I hope so....
   3 vote(s)
   7.1%
4. 
   I hope not....
   7 vote(s)
   16.7%

Change Your Vote

For the record..... and exceptionally well informed online Atheist told me one time that my idea of Theistic Evolutionary Theory..... .was actually a recognized branch of Atheism since it certainly is nothing like traditional Orthodox Christian thought or philosophy hardly at all.

 

I am not fearful of a theory that has absolutly zero evidence to support it. And when you can find any evidence that NDE's have any relationship to actual death you will probably be able to stop trying to divert from responding to my actual post.

And as to the question you diverted to which is are we the most technologically advanced species in the universe that should be preceeded by are we the only technology using species in the universe. And then of course the question would be is evidence of technology the only possible measure or even a valid measure of an advanced species.

For instance take the current concept of a god which has created heaven and earth with no technology at all.

 

First and foremost... YHWH the Father.... and YHWH The Mother / The Divine Femine / The Comforter / the Holy Spirit are
SCIENTISTS and inventors and engineers composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.........

I can't know for sure if YHWH the Father is composed EXCLUSIVELY of Super Strings / Light and IF
YHWH the Mother is composed EXCLUSIVELY of Super Waves / Gravity / Sound..... I can't know that for certain because maybe
INTELLIGENCE began when Super Strings and Super Energetic Matter met each other?????

Perhaps YHWH the Father is a combination of BOTH Super Strings / Light as well as Super Waves... and perhaps
YHWH the Mother is composed of mostly Super Waves / Super Energetic Matter / Gravity but a percentage of Super Strings.....
there is no way that I could be dogmatic about the composition........

but the probability of the first SCIENTIST being composed of a carbon based matter in four dimensional space - time is astonishingly close to zero......


Even Richard Dawkins Ph. D. .... having been aware of the Erik Von Daniken writings.....
hinted at the possibility....... that is actually a probability..... that we human are unlikely to
be the first Intelligence in the universe Multiverse!




www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

 

No, spirits have no sex, the same with Angels, as that was answered when they asked Jesus about the woman with many husbands. A mother god would be the most horrifying thing imaginable; A mother god bee stings the drones and kicks them to the curb, a mother god bites the head off the mating Preying Mantis, a mother god is the Black Widow...

When the ancients believed gods walked among us the striking of a stranger, as in Odysseus house abuse of the stranger was considered the worst thing the suiters did, the same when the Angels showed up at Lot's house, and the "Law of Hospitality" was violated. The Holy Spirit increases the likelihood of abusing god with every inhospitable action, because now the god is inside instead of just a few external gods or Angels in disguise, and being strangers at that, it means one has to respect things like speech, and judging whether the god is proposing good fruits or bad still does not admit of murder for speech.

 

A copy paste from another place. Requested verbatim to add here, so I adhere!

Ok, so this Christian flavour of the teaching: (((Commentary added by a neutral party (IE no religious affiliation) )))

Corinthians
Chapter 15


21 For since by man came death, ~~~

(((Matter and all things of matter born must die. All that comes must pass.)))

by man came also the resurrection of the dead. ~~~

(((That which is never born but is witness/knower of all that is born))) {The reference of resurrection of the dead, is very misleading, for that which lives on has no beginning and no end, no birth no death, but, it gets distracted by matter and for a while believes itself to be that which it watches}

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22 For as in Adam all die, ~~~

(((Adam the man, the body the world the mind, all this has a beginning point and so must have an end.)))

even so in Christ shall all be made alive. ~~~

(((The Christ, NOT Yeshua/Jesus' Christ, but You Christ and Me Christ and Him Christ and Her Christ etc, to know ourselves as this and only this now, not later, but right now, because it has always been so and always shall be so. BUT, its is not to be believed but actually truly remembered that it has never not been so, we simply got distracted)))

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23 But every man in his own order(No exceptions, nobody gets left behind): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. ~~~

(((We are already Christ Beings, we were, are and shall be, its eternal and infinite in every direction, the only thing that ever begins is temporary distraction IE a body mind and world to perceive, which come and pass and so are NOT part of the eternal except in a relative limited perspective way.)))


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24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. ~~~
(((Exactly!!! When we do not any longer put our thoughts, body or the things we see in the world between us and the Light of Knowing our True Eternal Nature of Truth. So long as we can get distracted into believing we are what we see, then we cannot accept the vast Truth of what we really are that is Watching all the things we believe we are or put on thrones as more important than the Absolute Divine Truth)))

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25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. ~~~

(((Same as the above, as long as we accept importance to any of these things more than HE, we are separated from HIM by our OWN hand! By enemies, it means any and every thing we crown as king or quest more important than finding OUR own way back to commune with the ALL. ONLY then are we able and True enough to be able to Know and Handle any quest that HE wishes us to undertake and until then, we are obeying the enemy, no matter how great and noble and vital the quest may seem, NOTHING is as important as finding OUR own personal reunification in the full grace of HIS communion)))

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26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. ~~~

(((And this is the Truest of them all!!! The fear of Death, the fear that we share the destiny of our body and personal thoughts and ideas, this greatest of all serpents the fear of death coming ever closer, which drives man to the most insane deeds and thoughts to do this and that before he is gone. This, the one that ends them all, when we remember, we cannot ever die and were never born, we did not come and shall not pass but have been always eternal as a full and infinite part of HIS body. IT and we have never not been. I and the Father/Mother are One, all ways always.)))

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27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. ~~~

(((Once the above is SEEN and KNOWN, not just believed for it is not nearly nor even remotely enough, but Known, one thing remains which is not an enemy of the eternal, not a thing which comes and goes, not a thing born to die, but eternal itself and this remembrance of the True Self we are, shines once more, upon ALL things. The exception to the rule is "I", for "I" Alone AM.
As the Shamans say: "Through aloneness to ALL Oneness!")))

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28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. ~~~

(((This, is to be SEEN, for this is beyond words and mind. Impossible and futile to describe before it is met by each alone.)))


The words in the bible are archaic, how we use them today can be much more simply put, we need far less allegory than they did when the scriptures were written. Just for an example, to point to other dimensions, we have TV and computer games etc, they had no such things for reference. It reads very different to us, when we try to put their words into our mouths and ears and thoughts and hearts. If Yeshua was here today to repeat his task, he'd very likely rewrite the whole thing and tell everyone to throw down their Bibles, because they read to us like riddles and are not clear at all, and that for certain was never meant to be, it was meant to be as clear as the day, it was intended to Light the Way, not create mist and confusion and argument over what was meant, even though evidently even back then, it was almost impossible for even Yeshua to convey in words the clarity of the Divine Light of Pure Knowing.
And perhaps. in time, as I am guided to, if I am, I may be the hand which does rewrite, but, there ARE already many who have already done so, but they, as Yeshua was in his time, are ignored and called New Agers and missed for their purity because of the actions of a few who claim but are not, and so the whole of anything new is disregarded as untrustworthy and false.
Anyway. My attempt at graceful and non judgmental reply.
As Ive said so many times, what I say is for me alone, what you hear is for you, the two are not the same, I say it to anyone who turns upon my words or claims what they hear is what Ive said, it is not, it cannot ever be, except, when two become one with HIM, then, divine communion is all there is, no misunderstandings.

 

A near death experiencer was shown that there are fourteen Elohim.....
the seven spirits of G-d but they are twins..... seven male and seven female.......(post #61 here on this page)....

She was shown that every human is given a part of one of these Elohim at conception......

Christian Andreason was shown his Elohim within that existed long before his conception:

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

Thank you for posting this:


Paul Smit: We are just happening – there is no control at all

My opinion.... .is that when I pray....... both G-d and the Devil.... . know I am praying...... and the Devil is a bit scared..... in a good way though... .because he knows that I can rip apart the space time continuum and usher in a total paradigm shift...............

I have felt a lot of anxiety and fear over this past fifteen months.. .and it is only in the past few days that this is clear to me because I have to be careful what I pray about or ask for....... because I will be given what I ask.......

Now Messiah Yeshua - Jesus stated that his people would be the dumbest... and least well informed of all people.... and I plead guilty....... I am as dumb as a post..... but I have some faith..... and I know how to change the atmosphere of this planet......

Although I am dumb as a post.... I AM a Yom Kippur goat...... and what I volunteered for.... is not something that happens every ten or fifteen minutes.....

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/tat...tGvKqDMYpfXx4O0DmMmH9yEOIhKlI86U#.VsDYdsf8iOw

Daniel Mulhern:

I believe that our choices... and our prayers......
shift the world in ways we can barely begin to imagine:

https://www.near-death.com/science/research/future.html#a03