Why is Barr holding a news conference tomorrow?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Apr 17, 2019.

  1. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump cannot be charged with a crime per Mueller, that is just a fact, you will never get that.

    If your case is simply impeachment then that is fine but Barr is held by law on what he can release. Democrats are already suing to have the redactions open which is fine and that is the way the system works.

    However, impeachment is a very tall order here and it's unlikely you will find enough to impeach Trump. Clinton clearly broke the law and wasn't impeached so you guys are really hoping against the odds here.

    If there was something illegal that happened then Mueller would have filed charges.

    At best you are going to see a lot of heresay and get a bunch of what if's.

    Not enough to impeach.
     
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    Are you saying that Barr showed Trump the un-redacted version? You have proof of this? Real proof, not CNN or MSNBC or even NBC fake news proof, but REAL proof?
     
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    Transparency? You call Barr's press conference transparency? Did you say that with a straight face? Who do you think you are fooling?

    Recalling Trump made the initial announcement, Barr is following Trump's orders. Trump wants Barr to provide the first spin on the Mueller Report. Reporters can't question Barr about his conclusions because the report won't be released until 11:00 AM.

    It is a cheap, transparent trick that will back to haunt Trump. That is Trump's idea of transparency.
     
  4. Gatewood

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    Unless you are stating that Barr or Trump is breaking the law in regard to this report then it is simply sour political grapes on your part. The Trump/Russia collusion scam of the RINOs and their leftist political allies finally blew up in their faces and they are outraged as a result . . . some of them are even outraged because the attempt to pull off a soft coup failed.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When members of Congress asked Barrif he released the Mueller report to Trumps team, Barr refused to answer.
     
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    So? It's against the law not to answer? Oh and Barr DID NOT release the unredacted Mueller Report to Trump, because doing that would be illegal. He BRIEFED Trump over the parts of the report that it was legal to brief Trump in regards to.
     
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    He was never going to be charged with a crime. That's not what we do with our Presidents. We impeach them and that is not something either Mueller or Barr have the authority to do.

    Impeachment was always the question given Trump and his campaign's behavior. Now, Trump, has added the potential for an increasing number of impeachable offenses to the list including lying about pertinent information regarding the investigation and the potential for obstructing the investigation. Those could also be impeachable offenses.

    Clinton, was impeached and he was primarily targeted for Lying not Sex in the White House using a Havana on Monica.


    Unfortunately, too many people don't understand the difference between Impeachable Offenses and Evidence required for charging and trying a case to the standard of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The "standards" are different, Spooky. Come on! Stop acting like you don't understand this.


    Hersey, depending on what rules of evidence? This is not a trial. This is the vetting of a Report. Barr, is essentially filing a de facto motion to quash by rendering the final report a limp you know what before handing it to Congress. Congress, needs to see the full un-redacted report. The notion that Congress can handle ATS (Above Top Secret) material, but not be competent enough to handle information that needs to remain redacted in order to protect the interest of ancillary individuals is absurd on its face.


    Trump, never provided you with enough evidence to elect him as President, but that did not stop you from making the biggest political blunder of my lifetime now did it, Spooks?
     
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    This whole thing stinks to high heaven. An Attorney General is the American people's legal representative and lawyer, NOT THE PRESIDENTS. Barr is highly compromised. He wrote a nineteen page memo to the president expressing his opinion that the Mueller investigation was flawed and outside the law.. This epistle got Barr the AG job. He then took it upon himself to write a four page opinion piece summarizing the Mueller report. Recently we learn that Barr has shared the report with the president before releasing it to Congress or the American people. This is breathtaking in its intent.

    All this is out of bounds for the people's lawyer, but not for the president's lawyer. This never happened in the Obama Administration. Now, on the day of the highly redacted report, Barr and his boss will hold press conferences ahead of the report release to sell the report to the American people. Worse (if that is possible) Trump has ordered Barr to investigate spying on Trump's campaign, an already discredited charge. This whole thing has become a staged farce and con job on the American people.

    In its current state, the redacted, pre-screened Mueller report is totally worthless. Barr is thoroughly discredited and, of course, Trump is tap-dancing around the law. Every indication is that they are soft pedaling, if not ignoring, the obstruction of justice elements in the Mueller report. The American people deserve better than this. They deserve a full, un-redacted report and they deserve a president and AG under indictment for obstruction of justice. This travesty will end with Mueller sitting before Congress in public hearing. Eventually, Americans will see the report in toto.
     
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  9. PatriotNews

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    I'll disagree. Absolutely nothing wrong with Trump seeing the full report. He is the nation's top law enforcement official.
     
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    What's with the "take my breath away" reactions to this? There is nothing wrong with Trump seeing the full report. He was the one who was wronged by the previous Administration, he is the victim, a victim of a #WitchHunt, and he should be allowed to present a defense in the public arena seeing as the #FakeNews media has spent the past two years convicting him in the court of public opinion.

    These are serious lawyers involved here. They would not do anything to jeopardize their careers. They know what they are doing, you'll see.
     
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    This whole thing is beyond stupid. This isn't Barr's report, it's Muellers. Why is Barr even having a press conference? Let the report speak for itself. The way this is going, I'll be surprised if anything happens tomorrow. It was going to be last Friday and now it tomorrow. Who know when it will be. For a report that Barr said will be lightly redacted it's taking a long time to do.
    Barr means nothing. Have to hear from Mueller.
     
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    O Ye of little faith!

    I say Barr is going to raise the bar so high, that he will present the Mueller report almost un-redacted. And he will surprise us all by denouncing Trump. Furthermore, he will announce that he is immediately beginning prosecution procedures for Obstruction of Justice!

    And Trump will spend his first night in prison.

    And the sky will turn into a bright purple.

    And all will rejoice and be of good cheer.

    And a chorus of angels will descend from Heaven.

    And they will sing the name of the True Anointed One.....


    Mike Pence!!!
     
  13. PatriotNews

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    Seems like a rather dumb conclusion. Holding a press conference so the media can ask questions is a transparent trick? Well I guess the media should stay home and not ask questions. The liberal world is as right side up as an upside down cake.
     
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    So what? Is there a law against the AG sharing the report with the boss? Try winning an election next time. Maybe you can get the IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA and Treasury Department to catch the next Republican who colludes with Russia.

    Putin if you're listening, Crooked Hillary's 33,000 emails please!
     
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    Yeah. Sure. I was there. I took a video, recorded the whole thing on my trusty camera. I can get you a copy. Do you have a betamax?
     
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    The top law enforcement official pertaining to the executive branch is Congress.
     
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    No, they are coequal branches. The nation's top law enforcement official is the President. He has a right to know everything.
     
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    We do know I'm pretty certain that it does contain grand jury testimony which means it cannot be openly released. We know that persons are mentioned in it that charges have not been filed against which means it cannot be openly released. It has been strongly speculated about that it has national security related material in it which means it cannot be openly released

    Surely you know this.
     
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    You do not know that. You are just guessing. At any rate Barr is starting to look pretty sleazy and shifty at this point. We will see what he says tomorrow. One thing for sure is that if he tries to do some tap dance tomorrow at his press conference it won’t be long until his fat ass is hauled into a congressional hearing. I can’t wait for the next episode.
     
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    Still believe in Unicorns and fairy dust I see. Oh my..........................:grin:


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    Generally a press conference is called AFTER the report is released and the guy who actually conducted the investigation (Bob Mueller) along with his team members to answer questions from the press who have had time to peruse the report. Also, giving Trumps lawyers the report weeks before anyone else sees it seems pretty fishy too. I smell another typical sleazy deceptive Trump misdirection operation about to be hatched. But we will see tomorrow morning.
     
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    I find it very hard to be convinced that Trump or whoever has done this wrong or that wrong when every day there's a new shiny object that the media is crying about. This is like pre-trial discovery. Trump has every right to see the full report, just as defense attorneys are allowed to see the evidence before a trial. This is a court of public opinion battle. Whatever is in Mueller's stupid report written by 18 angry Democrat Crooked Hillary supporters, it will be leaked, by the same 18 ugly Democrats. So I'll take it with the grain of salt. It'll be a hit piece with innuendoes and no proof or substance. Next week it'll be something else. Next month more of the same until 2024. Nothing the liberals can do to convince me to vote for radical left wing agenda.
     
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    Trump is Commander in Chief. He can declassify anything with a snap of the fingers. Who are these buffoons who think he can't read the entire report? LOL.......a basket full of imbeciles.
     
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    Pre trial discovery is given to the defense team in criminal proceedings, yes. But are you suggesting that defendants get information that the prosecution doesn’t get to see until the defense attorneys redact it. Come on man. In any case where there is evidence against the President, it is up to the US Congress to decide what action, if any should be taken. This has nothing to do with Crooked Hillary or 18 ugly Democrats. Those are just silly names made up by Trump and Parroted by imbeciles who blindly follow him. Your suggestion that Trump and his lawyers have every right to the full report but the US congress only gets to see what Trump’s apparent lackey wants them to see is a laughable bunch of crap.
     

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