I'm Reading The Entire Mueller Report | 37% Completed | Very Disturbing

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    Man the crazy spin going on here is amazing. People have lost their minds.

    Trump has been exonerated by the very person you said who end his presidency. Remember "Mueller time!"? I guess it's okay by me though. Even though it's sad to see so many people fall victim to the mass hysteria, the far left base of the Democrat party has gone so far left, so delusional, that Trump will have a 60 - 40 popular vote win like we haven't seen since 1984.
     
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    Nah, evil is winning. Evil is kicking our collective butt.

    Seriously, evil is really in vogue on this planet. People, actually enjoy being evil. In fact, I'm now convinced that is the nature of some people - to be evil. People are falling all over themselves to get in on the biggest game in history: The Game of Being Evil. Look at all our most successful Computer Games. Evil at every turn. We love acting out our true heart's intent through "games" and when "games" are not enough, we take it into the real world through our Politics. That's right. We use our politics to press forward on our evilness - even when we sincerely believe that we are not being "evil."

    What is evil. What is good. What is truth. Do we really know? If we truly knew Good from Evil, Truth from Lie, Fair from Unfair, Honest from Dishonest - would be in the condition we now find ourselves? If we truly knew the right thing to do, would we not simply do it? I don't think the issue is evil. I think the issue lies in our Reprobate Character. A Reprobate Mind is one that cannot distinguish the differential between right and wrong.

    We are standing up to Trump. But, for every one Trump, there are probably a thousand more waiting to take his place. We have a real systemic problem on our hands here and it is called Abject Moral Decay. We are watching the early stages of the disintegration of our beloved Republic. We did this to ourselves. Yes, the Mueller Report makes public the devastatingly corrupt nature of the Trump Presidency and his former Campaign for President. However, there is no outcry in the streets for his removal. Even Congress, who felt it necessary to censure Bill Clinton, over lying about sex with Monica, can't find the necessity to censure Donald Trump, for "cooperating" and "coordinating" with Russians during the middle of his campaign for President.

    This is proof of our collective Reprobate Mindset. The frog being boiled to death does not know that he's being boiled to death until it is far too late for him to do anything about it. We are that frog and the temperature of the water we put ourselves into is ever increasing - growing hotter by the day. Of course, we deem it to be "normal."
     
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    There was also heavy attempts to get into Russia to discuss business deals with Putin during the campaign. This is equally disturbing. Right now, this very moment, if either you or I, go to Russia, to meet with Putin about ANYTHING, the entire US Intelligence Community would be sniffing up our rectums to find out WHY. And, they would have every single reason to do. Yet, here was a Presidential Candidate who was attempting feverishly to do the exact same thing and some people just want to ignore it like it never happened.

    This dude was trying to get into Moscow during a run for the Presidency. We now know exactly why because of this Report. In the past, all we had were media reports. We now have direct communications that we can read telling us why Cohen, was so intensely trying to set up meetings with Putin. And, there is no doubt about who made Cohen, so intense about doing that. Trump, had to have been pushing the issue. Else, Cohen, has no directions to follow. How would Cohen, know that Trump, would agree to an invitation from Russia, unless Trump, gave him that assurance.

    There has never been a person in my lifetime who set out to establish communications with a foreign enemy during a President campaign where they were the principle. Unprecedented in all US History.
     
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    That's some great Denial. Do you have anymore?
     
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    :banana::angered::cheerleader:.....right.....then why did trump happily accept Wikileaks help as they released stolen emails?
     
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    Then he lied constantly to his supporters and they gladly believed he had no interest in Russia....as he was trying hard to get permission to build a hotel there.

    trump supporters have to be the most stupid people in the world. They lap up every lie trump tells them.

    I bet trump laughs every night about the idiots that come to his rallies and believe all his lies..they are all as dumb as rocks....
     
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    Profound.
     
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    Hatred of Trump.
     
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    Of course, not. Because, if you admit to it then you can't back away from it later. But, during the heat of the moment, you know you are lying through your teeth when:

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    "A different foreign government informed the FBI."

    So, this was not just Papadopoulos and he did not limit his statement about the Trump camp receiving information about stolen emails to just the Greek Foreign Minister. Receiving information from the Russian Government that you know is disadvantageous to your political adversary here at home - does not trigger a need to get the FBI involved? Why did the Trump Camp fail to do that when it had the chance?

    Little glass bubble? How about little lying bubble called the Trump Bubble?
     
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    US intelligence agencies' consistent assessment, confirmed by the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee

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    "He said he didn't meddle! He said he didn't meddle!
    I asked him again. You can only ask so many times!
    Every time he sees me, he says,
    'I didn't do that,' and I believe, I really believe,
    that when he tells me that, he means it.
    I think he is very insulted by it!"
    Trump bum kissers who venerate their messiah who lies like a Mexican prayer rug will eagerly surrender to Putin, of course.
     
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    Yep!

    #SPYGATE #CrossfireHurricane is coming!
    #WitchHunt is over! #NoCollusion #NoObstruction
     
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    Have you initiated your paperwork to have Crazy Willard committed?

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    “I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection
    by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...paign-after-reading-mueller-report/ar-BBW6XGV
     
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    The Witch Hunt that actually landed Witches?
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    Why are people associated with the Trump Campaign, lying to officials about their contacts with Russians, if there was no involvement with Russians?
     
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    The DOJ has a rule forbidding the indictment of a sitting President.

    Mueller presented his evidence in prosecutorial way, meaning was there enough evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. Mueller did not even try. He left it up to Congress.

    Concerning Trump's indictment, when he does says "No collusion and no obstruction," that was determined two years ago.

    Recalling the Trump Tower meeting on June 9, 2016, during which Trump's son, Trump's son-in-law, and Trump's campaign manager met with four Russian operatives at Trump's home, Trump Tower, to get dirt on Clinton, Mueller made this astonishing assessment.

    "This meeting posed “difficult statutory and constitutional questions,” Mueller said in the report, but his office “ultimately concluded that, even if the principal legal questions were resolved favorably to the government, a prosecution would encounter difficulties proving that Campaign officials or individuals connected to the Campaign willfully violated the law.” (Emphasis on “willfully.”)" https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...t-mueller-report-said/?utm_term=.22411b363144

    Anyone involved in an election campaign is expected to know campaign laws. Junior, Kushner, and Manafort clearly broke them. For a Presidential election campaign to seek a benefit from a hostile foreign power is a serious violation of federal law.

    Why did Mueller let them off the hook?

    One can only conclude that Mueller decided they were only subordinates doing Trump's bidding. The fault and the responsibility lies with Trump, not with his underlings.
     
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    READ the thread. I've been posting excerpts directly from the Mueller Report for two days now. If you refuse to read the Report, then read the Thread. It is directly under your nose, the evidence that Trump, through Cohen, was trying vociferously to get a meeting with Putin, regarding business dealings on the record. Now, off the record - who the hell knows what they would have discussed. However, we do know that Putin, would have by necessity needed to get something form the meeting.
     
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    I believe Vladimir Putin over the lying intelligence agencies that tried to frame the President of the United States in a failed coup attempt.

    Dear Vladimir Putin,

    if you're listening, please release Crooked Hillary's 33,000 deleted emails. Also, while you are at it please spy on the Democrat party candidates for president. We need all their emails, tax returns, text messages, and phone conversations. Please forward to donaldjtrump45@whitehouse.gov

    Thank you,

    THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

    Also, there's one real problem with this entire bull**** story about Putin wanting Trump to be President. That is Trump put defensive missiles back into Eastern Europe, sent military aid to Ukraine, boosted NATO spending $240 billion by making NATO countries ante up their fair share, made our country a net oil exporter, killed 200 Russian mercs, closed 3 Russian consulates and expelled over 100 Russian personnel, create Space Force, boosted military spending, rebuilding our nuclear arsenal and ended the INF Treaty and the flawed Iran Deal the Obama made with terrorist nation and Russia surrogate Iran.

    How that working out for you Vlad?

    Should have stayed with the Democrats. They sold you our uranium for $145 million to the Clinton Foundation and a $500,000 dollar song and dance by Bill Clinton in Moscow to Russian banks who were involved in the treasonous sale of Uranium One.

    If Putin was trying to get Trump elected, why didn't he turn over Crooked Hillary's 33,000 deleted emails? Instead he gave the Crooked Hillary campaign a Russian dossier, paid for by the FBI & Obama with taxpayer money, and Crooked Hillary and the the DNC with money laundered through Perkins Coie to Fusion GPS to a foreign spy, Christopher Steele. Looks like they were trying to get Crooked Hillary elected.

    Should have stayed with Obama's party who said, "Tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility after the election" and the let Putin invade Ukraine and annex Crimea. Then Obama refused to intervene and refused to give Ukraine military aid. WIMP!

    Oh but we know Putin just hated Crooked Hillary.

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    Mueller, did is job. He left it up to Congress. This is in Congresses lap now. The intellectual and legal argumentation with respect to the precedent of indicting a sitting President notwithstanding, the Congress has the authority to impeach and now, has the evidence with which to do it. However, this Congress will not even broach the subject sincerely because the political mathematics don't work. In the meantime, the Republic suffers a real blow to its own integrity.

    We are smack dab in the middle of a serious crisis. Not is Congress incapable of functioning on a day-to-day level, they can't even impeach when the deck is stacked in their favor for doing so. This should be the reason why We The People, abolish the Congress and start over per the sentiment of one Thomas Jefferson.

    Bottom line: We suck at doing the right thing.
     
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    Okay, but if none of them are trying to build a monumental Tower to themselves in Russia, how will their emails, tax returns, text messages and phone conversations help show "coordination" and "cooperation" with Russians Operatives? Just say'n.
     
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    That's not an indication they lied. That an indication that the Mueller team had a political agenda and persecuted innocent people into pleas for crimes the didn't commit just to get them off their backs. Totally political prosecutions. These people like Flynn, Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos should be pardoned immediately.
     
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    You really do need to at least try to read before you post stuff like this. Trump Junior, retweeted a link that drove traffic to a website containing hit material on Hillary, after he was told to do so by a Russian Operative. Did you miss that somewhere in the Report? Did you not read the excerpt of that fact I posted in this thread?


    You guys really need to think about going back to school. Again, a Crime is a Crime. Impeachable Offenses are Impeachable Offenses. They DO NOT have to be exactly one and the same. They CAN be different. It all depends on how Congress decides to interpret the behavior of the one in question.


    The question is: Who would like the conduct on a moral level and WHY is such immoral and unethical conduct fine with them? You are sorely missing the point here.


    Again. Criminality is Criminality. Impeachable Material is Impeachable Material. They could be one and the same, or they could not be one and the same. The final decision, by way of United States Constitution, is the United States Congress, not Special Counsel, not the Attorney General and certainly not TrumPets.

    Please, no more posts that Mueller, did not find that a "crime had been committed." Please, no more posts that Mueller, "found no collusion." The Report clearly shows that Mueller, found "coordination," "foreknowledge," "cooperation" and a willingness in Trump Campaign Members to accept information they knew to be of foreign origin, they knew to be illegally obtained and they knew was deleterious to their political opponent here at home. The Mueller Report clearly establishes that Cohen, was consistent and determined to establish a physical meeting in Russia with Russian President Vladimir Putin, during a United States Presidential election cycle while having principle role in that election cycle as the Republican Nominee for the Presidency. These are impeachable offenses, even if they may or may not be prosecutable criminal acts.
     
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    That's because they're a bunch of losers who don't have that kind of clout. Don't let it bother you though. Trump Tower Moscow deal is dead for now but will probably be completed under time and under budget by 2026.
     
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    Huh?

    Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence. Mueller is not on trial here. Mueller, was appointed by the Justice Department. He was not set-up by Democrats in the Congress.


    Objection: Assumes facts not in evidence. Innocent people don't lie, nor do innocent people commit criminal acts leading to indictments, trials, guilty verdicts or plea deals. Guilty people do these things all the time, however. Guilty people lie all the time, get indicated daily, go to trial every 24 hours somewhere in this country and get guilty verdicts handed to them or plea out routinely.


    Only in a Alternate Trumpian Universe where up is down, left is right, forward is backward, right is wrong, hot is cold, wet is dry and grabbing them by the puzzy is considered "normal" behavior, would people like Flynn, Manafort, Gates and Papa be considered worthy of Presidential Pardon.

    My dear friend, drop another quarter and try again. Next time, try to simply accept the truth of the Report that you refuse to READ.
     
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    Is this what being the President means? Having clout and building stuff in Russia with your name on the side of a building? But, any narcissist who knows how to file for bankruptcy and fill out a loan application could do that to some degree. Maybe not in Russia, but they could certainly build a building and slap some letters on the side.

    How about build a Hospital instead? That would impress the holy **** out of someone like me. Hell, if he built a Hospital, even I might be up for a little colluding damn self - if it gets a Hospital built. Hell, why not go down on Putin. At least People get helped by it. Nobody gets helped by Trump and his overgrown hotel except those in the Trumpasphere and that is not YOU. He does not care about you.

    And, no. I would not accept collusion under any circumstances - even after building Hospital.
     

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