Paris Homeless Population Disappointed in Notre Dame Fund-Raising

Are they right to be disappointed? If any funds are left over from the rebuilding effort should they go to help the homeless? or is there another way to help them?

 

The more one gives the worse it gets. Look at San Fran.

 

You need to post this in the thread on why God let this happen.

Maybe he's trying to teach us all a lesson. What is more important, a building or human beings? In the U. S. we have issues with the homeless and no one helping them. Yes, some may choose that lifestyle, but many are just mentally ill enough to not be able to keep a job and yet not ill enough to get help from the government. And, they send money overseas rather than help the homeless. We want to pay for education rather than help the homeless. We want healthcare for all, but it won't help the homeless much, if they don't have a place to live and be safe from disease and drugs.

Maybe it was intentional that God did not put the fire out? Would we have listened to him and believed, if he did? I doubt that. There is a scientific explanation for everything. That money could have been better spent.

 

You can fix the Cathedral.

The homeless are just a never ending cause.

And France has dumped way more than 1 billion into their homeless problem over the years and nothing's changed.

It's a waste of money.

 

Disagree.

 

homeless people aint done **** for themselves, so they have **** to say about people who have a true understanding of why Notre Dame is much more important than they are.

They need to get up off their lazy shiftless ********s and do something worthy of charity before they can complain.

 

So you want to help the homeless to make them more comfortable so they have even less desire to fix their situation?

Is that really helping them?

 

That's your opinion of what I mean by "help" them.

 

Many of our homeless are vets who served our country coming home shell shocked,injured or just plain incapable of adjusting back to civilian life.Discarded by society, thrown on the trash heap to be ignored.

 

Well you aren't being very clear my friend so I have to make assumptions.

 

You have no idea how sick I am of hearing people sucking up on the public teat talking about how they "served". It's a tiresome and useless attempt at trying to be better than they really are. If they want to serve the country, then get a real job, and stop working for the government.

If you want to serve the country, then you will get a job in the private sector. In the public sector, you don't serve dick except to force your employers to pay you your salary, rather than serving by being of enough use to earn a profit.

I work in the private sector, which means I earn a profit for my employer. Public employees are mere parasites.

 

So I shouldn't be a teacher?

 

Wouldn't a better argument be, "Should we issue vouchers"?

 

I used to be a strong proponent of that but as I gear up to enter the field I am now on the fence.

I could probably be convinced to go either way if someone gives a solid argument.

So I don't know Chester, that's the best I can tell you right now.

 

Belch.Maybe it's your kind of attitude contributing to the fact our military can no longer meet it's enlistment goals

 

They don't want to be stuck in something they didn't want to do for years. It's not the same as STEM. You literally have to allow yourself to be bullied and ask how high when told to jump. Not something most folks are used to doing. The pay is terrible, too. There is no privacy, if you are an introvert. I don't think there are many folks today who are not introverts.

Also, no phones. Many folks can't live without connection to cyberspace or their gaming.

 

Lyndon Johnson said that there was no excuse for people in the richest country on earth to live in substandard housing.

My parents, who were both southern democrats, and who knew what it was actually like to go hungry, because they lived through the Depression, agreed,

I still do.

 

I agree with your words even though I know your intent wasn't something I would agree with.

 

Dad and his family were poor and made it. He paid for his own education by being a caddy. He rode a bicycle with rubber tires on wooden wheels to school in the nice weather and rode the trolley in bad weather. It was several miles one way.

There are some interesting facts in this article. Some of them talk about food and related health. Take a look.
Oh, and I say facts because I tend to believe these are true assertions.

https://triblive.com/opinion/donald-boudreaux-reasons-to-be-happy-on-earth-day/

 

Lyndon Johnson's policies made people and generations of families chronically dependent on government handouts.

FDR had the sense to keep the work ethic important with his programs.

Some people live in substandard housing because their choices made them poor. There is a very real word called "Enabling"...and enabling people to stay poor and homeless is not kind.

 

We’ve been fighting that war on poverty with a big government solution for a long time now. How’s that working out?

 

Ya, it was Lyndon Johnson who said, and I quote........"I'll have ******s voting Democrat for the next 100 years". You proud of that too?

 

Of course. I know most of them are true.

And I’m surprised and disappointed at how few Americans do. But then, in a deeply. Isolated and parochial culture, the media tends to reinforce familiar stereotypes rather then inform people about a changing world,

Many of these advances are due in no small part to the leadership of the United States, particularly in the food area. The spread of technology and investment was facilitated by free trade and the network of international agreements and organizations that the US set up in the years after WWII>


These things have helped raise the standard of living of every person on this planet. It’s the main reason there is so much distrust and dismay over the rise of Trump and Trumpism.

The US is quitting its role as a world leader. That’s what Trump is doing.

Kim Jung Un just gave him the very public finger. Not only did the Trump Administration not respond, much of the US media barely noticed.

China is stepping nicely into the voids we are creating.

 

How about we use the money to put them to work rebuilding the cathedral?

 

One big difference here is that folks know the Cathedral won't crap on the sidewalk.