Argentina - another right-wing government teeters on economic crisis

Oh, you mean like Trump tried to accomplish with his attempts to get the interests rates lowered with whackjob fed appointments, after the massive givaway to the wealthiest and corporations, without having closed the loopholes like he promised to?

Or maybe like when he suggested "printing a bunch of money" or selling a bunch of bonds?

Oh and ya didn't explain the "smashing"? Also crack coaine is what people smoke, did you mean smoking? cuz it's the best I could figure? BTW Coke isn't physically addictive, there's a "comedown" that's rather unpleasant, but there are no "withdrawals". Maybe you meant injecting? If ya did, the term is "slamming".




Yeah, OK.

 

Maybe it's all the Rand, makes you comprehension a bit shaky, but the OP is about a right wing regime.

Plus with all that nonsense in your head, clearly, you too, don't understand the meanings of either word yourself.

Either that or the GOPs propganda on it is even better than we thought (and it is pretty effective gotta admit).

BTW, how many actual rotting corses have you smelled? I mean I know y'all prefer fantasy tales like the bible over science and all, but 1000
miles?

I could smell him for a few blocks, but that was all. (Neighbor died in Tacoma, no relaitives, vistiors, and in WA we don't have AC), was like a month of really hating the necessity of opening windows that sumer I assure ya! But 1K miles is a bit of a strecth dontcha think? Or was that just more hyperbole to support your (non)"point"?

Oh well, whatevs....

 

Why so adversarial? I agree completely as far as Trump goes.

What happened was, the Fed gave Obama one of the loosest monetary policies of all time in any nation anywhere in history. This expands the money supply and drives demand which prompts growth.

Trump, being the brash individual he is, could not see that raising interest rates is a sign of a good economy, and viewed it as an attack by the Fed.

Does Trump strike you as the sort of person who would put the country first and accept a contraction in his Presidency leading to good times with the next adminiatration? I didn't think so.

So. A lesson for you: do not be so quick to box people into stereotypes, and give people the benefit of the doubt.

As far as my crack analogy goes, I wouldn't know, as I don't use crack. Substitute heroin if you so please.

 

Assumptions, being over tired, slept bad, recovering from flu and such. Apologies, for that.

I never abused crack either (not a fan, meth better bang for the buck, easier to sling for cash tho back in the day), tho I've CDC training, and have recovered from IV Meth addiction for years, so just letting ya know on that score..

I also have fun just being a dick sometimes (obviously) Ain't that kinda a lot of the point here?

I mean I know, people debate, discuss, but we also spar with text, play that game of attack and parry (withing confines of forum rules), isn't that what makes it fun?

The issues sometimes do make me angry, and sometimes the reasoning folks use for supporting issues, and I get pissed and in trouble, but still, at the end of the day, or even like 30 min later, it's alsmost never personal. In some forums I end up getting a og better with some of the politcal foes whose idealogies I despise the most, and least with some folks who I agree with on most everything.

Very rare anyone on a forum ever gets through to make me combative to the point it ever gets personal and I actually dislike a fellow poster. I'm not perfect, I'm human, i can and has happened, but very rarely. Usually I am over any actual "butthurt" that may occur within minutes, I think it's true of most folks.

Anyway, fair enough. Have a good day man.

 

We all get carried away from time to time. Enjoy your day.

 

Nope. Just listen to Lennon’s Imagine.

 

Collectivists are collectivists no matter what side of the manmade political spectrum they are on. One thing is obvious, though—if he’s printing money, he certainly isn’t a capitalist (they want gold), he’s a statist.

As to collectivists’ smell of rotting corpses and the echoes of their victims living screams, they will never go away—as long as men remain honest and free.

 

As a Rand devotee, are you a full proponent of Laissez-faire?

 

I reject the smear and assert I am nothing more than an everyday guy doing everyday things to make his every day the happiest and prosperous it can be, within reason--which, btw, is Ayn Rand's banner, and the only thing any admirer of hers would pledge allegiance to, Reason, not Rand--an act which she would knowingly nod, graciously accept, and approvingly applaud.

And as a man of reason, I would point out that laissez-faire capitalism is an unnecessary redundancy, i.e., if it's not laissez-faire, it's not capitalism, at best its statism, at worst, totalitarianism.

 

Excellent.

 

Argentina a third world country ?

 

Objectivism....

"Reasonable"?

 

Okay, well kind of a second world country, or at least a second-rate first world country.

 

Very well said.

 

Ah, mockery as a substitute for reason.
This is neither the time or place, nor am I sure you have the integrity and intellect needed to debate Objectivism.

But if you wish: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/mans-future-the-pedestal-or-the-cross.550884/

 

Unfortunately, this is exactly what we are going to get from the right in the coming campaign because they simply refuse to address issues and instead rely on simplistic dismissals with memes that have been programmed into their heads from youth. I doubt you could tell a real socialist or communist if one punched them in the nose and gave you free healthcare.

And yet in poll after poll the issues most important to the majority of Americans are health care, access to education and fair taxation policy not wars or immigration which is what they are getting now.

Why is the right refusing to have an honest, adult discussion about issues Americans want?

 

How to tell a communist from a capitalist? The one with the gun is the communist. Don’t believe me. Ask Kira Argounova. She knows.

 

Americans are (were) happy with their private medical insurance. Before Obamacare, 80% liked what they had.

Obamacare was like using an elephant gun on a mosquito.

 

Rich coming from a country awash in gun violence and waging wars and killing people with sanctions all over the globe.

 

Nope. Americans have always been concerned about health care way before Obama. Both Truman and Clinton tried to come up with plans for Universal health care and failed.

https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.20.2.33

The consistency of concern about healthcare stands in contrast to the other economic issues that dominated Gallup's list of worries in 2010 and 2011, as the nation began its climb out of the 2008-2009 Great Recession.
The percentage of Americans who worried a great deal about the economy reached its highest point, 71%, in 2011 and 2012, but this has plummeted to 33% in 2019. The percentages worrying a great deal about the Social Security system or federal spending and the budget deficit have declined more gradually since their 2010-2011 peaks, but both have fallen more than 10 percentage points -- though worries about spending and the deficit are still high.

Meanwhile, the percentage worrying a great deal about the availability and affordability of healthcare has held steady. It is within one point of where it was in 2010 (56%) and has never dropped below 54% over the past nine years. In October, Americans said healthcare was one of their top issues for the midterm elections, and in November, 61% said the possibility of increases in healthcare insurance costs was "a major concern."

https://news.gallup.com/poll/248159/healthcare-once-again-tops-list-americans-worries.aspx

"Eight in 10 Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Most don’t have the savings to cover out-of-pocket expenses should they experience a serious or prolonged illness. In fact, half of U.S. adults say that one large medical bill would force them to borrow money. The reality is that a cancer diagnosis or an expensive, lifelong prescription could spell financial disaster for the majority of Americans. Today, 62% of bankruptcy filings are due to medical bills.

To understand how we’ve arrived at this healthcare affordability crisis, we need to examine the evolution of healthcare financing and accountability over the past decade."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertpearl/2018/08/13/midterms/#61fb32d03667

All the Obama bashing in the world does not change the fact that yours is the only nation in the developed world without some form of user-pay, universal health care and that this is a number one concern for the majority of Americans.

To say everything was okay before Obama is ridiculous.

 

80% of Americans were happy with their medical coverage pre-Obamacare. Your bullshit won't erase that.

 

Provide a link to back up your claim.

My "bullshit" provided three sources for your consideration. You have provided nothing but opinion and false allusions to communism.

 

And who says America is capitalist? It may have been founded as a capitalist nation, but it certainly isn’t one any longer. If it were capitalist, there’d be a lot less violence, poverty, and sadness and lot more peace, prosperity and happiness. But what you gonna do? Altruism has a strangle hold on morality, and the masses love sacrificing everything for nothing, and the bureaucrats love collecting from them.

 

I'm on a phone and not sure how to link. But you can Google, "Politifact: Will says 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it".

In 2010, conservative columnist George Will said 85% of Americans had health insurance and 95% of them were satisfied with their insurance coverage. After reviewing eight polls conducted at that time, Politifact actually found 87% of Americans were happy with their health insurance pre-Obama. They said Will's comment was "mostly true".

We needed Obamacare like we needed cancer.

 

Even before ACA, if you had to insure yourself, private, selfemployed, you were screwed. It was the most expensive thing you had.
Not your house/rent, car, family or education for your kids. It was health insurance and if you did not have it or could afford it or had a pre-condition, or just could not get it because of a pre, this was the biggest concern for millions in the US.
Even before ACA I had to pay over 10.000 per year, untaxed money, mind you.
Than I had an accident, which became a precondition according to my insurance.
Caugh up 5000 more per year or we drop you. 1 person, 15000 a year.

With ACA for the first years I was able to have 100% bronze plan from 650 to 800 per month, till the industry figured out the small print.
1400 a month and just 1 company will insure you in my area. Bronze 100%, 6300 deductible, no dental, no eye.
I get a Platinium wooper trooper private in Germany without shopping around for under $400, the one were you do not have to sit and wait in the waiting room.
So for the US I have the cheapest I can get, which keeps me alive and than my German insurance flies me out to Germany.
Under $ 400 a month.
Used it once, had a slot in the first class with a nurse.