No if you afford a woman and opt-out clause during pregnancy it is only equal to afford a man be similar opt-out clause during pregnancy. If a woman aborts the fetus she has no responsibility to it it's gone. Why should a woman get that ability and a man should have to support her choice? I'm just pointing out any quality in this regard. a woman makes a choice that effects a man's life that is by no definition equality. so you would have no problem with a man "aborting" his fatherly responsibilities to a potential person? If you do and you say a woman can abort it then you're being a hypocrite in your making arguments for special privileges for women. That would make you anti-equality the spy your definition of feminism anti-feminist.
I didn't say anything at all about restricting women's Freedom I'm just talkin about allowing men to have the same freedom. It's you that is against men having equal freedom. Because you think women are entitled to men's labor by virtue of having a child. It would be 100% her choice to have the child or not. It just wouldn't include entitlement to a man's labor.
So you are saying that a man should be able to abandon a child he created because the woman didn’t abort it. When a man can get pregnant he also will have an opt out clause. If a woman aborts a fetus, you are correct, she has no responsibility....NEITHER DOES HE! As I keep repeating men and women have consequences..she has many more. He knows the consequences as does she. What is so fascinating is that you are against abortion but yet you have no problem with the man having the right to abandon a child he created because the woman made the decision not to have an abortion. A woman didn’t make the choice that affects his life… He did! I also have to laugh at your perception of special privileges for women.Yes they have that special privilege of having a painful abortion or going through nine months of pregnancy and an agonizing delivery and raising a child for 18 years. I think you’re just jealous that you don’t have a uterus. Do you want to be a woman?
You are against a woman having an abortion...And if it were up to you you would restrict women’s reproductive freedom. You sound so silly when you say you want men to have the same freedom as the woman only a woman can get pregnant. I told friends about your viewpoint and they laughed saying that you were probably putting me on and now I’m beginning to think they may be right You are one of those people who believes life begins at conception and ends at birth. You support a man to conceive a child but then walk away from it, because he didn’t have the choice . Most men are intelligent enough to understand the biology is destiny and that when he creates a child, he has to support it, as does she.Only most of the burden is on her
No not really I'm against women having special rights. Such as the ability to decide whether or not she's entitled to a man's labor. If a woman can be able to opt out of Parenthood during pregnancy a man should be allowed to as well
Huh? A mans labor? He can have the labor you want her to go through lol. What you are saying is that it is only the male who should have the final say. Sorry but it doesn’t work that way. You keep forgetting about a child. You don’t give a damn about a child that is born because she like you, it is against abortion. If she opts out of parenthood then a man has absolutely no responsibility. If she has the child they both have to share in the life of THEIR child. Who should have the final say in a pregnancy? Most intelligent men know that because they don’t have a uterus that they will not have that choice. They have the choice when they have sex You really want to punish women..part of your hatred for women. What if he wants the child should she be forced to breed against her Will? After all that’s probably equality to you But I agree, a man should be able to opt out of his pregnancy...My friends are right you are putting me on
Come on you’re putting me on. I am not talking about the womb. I am talking about a woman who believes as you do , and is against abortion and has their child. You are saying that the man should be able to abandon his child because he didn’t have a choice to force her to have an abortion
it's entirely her choice to go through that labor. So if she chooses to go through that labor it's 100% on her.
And the father should abandon his child. We just have different values. You just want to blame women but you refuse to see a third-party and that is a child of both of their flesh and blood. Do you want him to be able to ignore the child that he created because he didn’t want it. You should be ashamed of yourself. I think you hate women more than you care about children
that's still her choice. And I am talking about when the fetus is in the womb. Why should a woman's choice entitle her to a man's labor? I'm not talking about after the child's born I'm talking about before while it's a fetus in the womb. If a woman should be allowed to abort it why can't a man say he doesn't want to have anything to do with it?
no I'm not talking about a child I'm talking about a fetus in the womb. If he abandons it before it's a child why is that wrong?
Because it's a fetus when it is convenient for them to be a fetus and a child when it is convenient to be so.
Well that's the snare. And it's kind of telling how when a man doesn't want to have anything to do with the pregnancy it magically becomes a child. I've had this argument with dozens of feminists in the past and it always leads to this duality. I think you for recognizing it and speaking up.
Lol..it’s a fetus when it’s a fetus and a child when it’s born, to anti choice people a zygote is the same as a toddler
I guess women are very imaginative and they are smart enough to know that when the pregnancy is over magically a child is born. I guess women can think beyond nine months. I guess it’s OK for you to justify a man wanting nothing to do with his child if it is born...too annoying and expensive.But you prove my point that life begins at conception and ends at birth for you. You are justifying that a man be able to walk away from his own child because he didn’t want it. Women don’t have that option
Well again you make my point life begins at conception but ends at birth for people like you. Whose DNA does that fetus in the womb have? If that’s that fetus develops into a child whose child is it? Obviously you don’t give a damn about children just ZEFs. You hate women more than you care about a child
You keep repeating this line, “why should a woman’s choice and entitle her to a man’s laborl what does that even mean? If a woman is allowed to abort it is because it is only in her body. Are you saying she shouldn’t be allowed to have that choice? Who should have the choice?But again you don’t give a damn about the child that is his. If she aborts that is the end of the issue, if she doesn’t they both have a child that is their flesh and blood.
about women having the right to ask men to make bets with them. women could insist, if She wins wins the bet, we have to watch Her get used, but if the guy wins the bet, He gets to use Her.
You prove that you know life begins at conception because a man is responsible for the child before it's born. It's just that you think women should have the special right to abort it. Meaning you are not the slightest bit interested in equality.
You keep telling me it's not a child it's a zygote or a fetus. So which is it a child or a fetus and we're talking in the womb? further I'm not saying anything at all about women I'm asking what rights do men have?
Yep, men and women are equals in pregnancy and childbirth. Lol. Women should not have the right to abort it, only men should make that decision, once again you prove you think equal means the same. Who should have the final say? The man of course and when a child is born he should be able to abandon it. We just have different values
It is a child when it is born. That is why it is called a child. First it is a zygote. Then it is an embryo. Then it is a fetus.. I don’t know why that is so hard for you to comprehend. You ask what rights have? The right not to get into a situation where they know the consequences. What rights do you think men should have that they are being denied? Once again you are anti-abortion but you are also anti-supporting a child that you create. You seem to want meant to have a win-win situation
Lol....you sound so silly. I’m not the one saying a man should be able to walk away from his child. There’s no projection it’s just your very words. I am the one who cares about children when they are born. You care more about ZEFs and once they’re born, bye bye....after all they didn’t want it.
