Now it's Israel's Independence Day

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  1. pitbull

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    ... at 8-9 May 2019: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_Day_(Israel)

    The most controversial nation in the world celebrates its 71th Independence Day.

    How could it come this far?

    Israel is based on stolen land (by the Brits) and Zionist ethnocracy. Israel is founded on massacres and expulsion of the indigenous population and Immigration of Eastern Europeans to displace the inhabitants of Palestine.

    Why is this wrong accepted for so long? Why the world is constantly looking away when it comes to Zionist crimes? How many innocent Palestininan women and children still have to die? How long can Israel go on unpunished?

    In my opinion, every Israeli Independence Day is a day of sadness and mourning.
     
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    How could Israel come this far? Super smarts, hard work, fearlessness, sweat, and soul.
     
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    You forgot recklessness, brutality and lots of criminal energy.
     
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    Israel is probably the most civilized nation on earth.
     
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    An interesting statement. Why do you believe that a nation depending on violence, expulsion and rascism is civilized?
     
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    When they're trying to take your ground you got to fight and kill. Cease and desist when they cease and desist. That's the story of civilization.
     
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    Did you ever think that it's not easy to cease and desist when you are oppressed? All people want to live free, including the Palestinians.

    Zionists came to rob Palestinian land and dignity. How can the Palestinians accept this? They will fight until a righteous compromise is reached.
     
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    Compromise?

    Ha! Good one.

     
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    Hamas Charta makes pretty good sense to me. Why should Palestinians surrender to occupiers who came from europe?
     
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    Why? Because Israel is full of Jews, that's why.

    And what have Jews done to deserve their own little swatch of land they can call their home:
    • 0.25% world population
    • 22% Nobel prize winners
    • 47% World chess champions
    • 51% Oscars for best score & best song
    • Thinkers of the 20th Century - 30%
    • 40% eminent psychologists
    • Business, finance, education, medicine, government, Hollywood, cosmetics, literature, law, philosophy, charity etc.

    Palestinians?

    Hm...
     
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    It is not the Jews. It's nationalism, racism and what's associated with it.
     
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    Just like every other country on earth, eh?
     
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    And here I was thinking Israel is hated because it's full of Jews. I stand corrected :roflol:
     
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    Together with other Arabs, they made seven wars on Israel, losing land every time. Why should Palestinians get smarter and think before they piss off Israel next time?

    No reason :juggle:
     
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    You mean rogue states and dictatorships ...
     
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    What's wrong with the Jews, bro? Many Jews don't like what "Israel" commits in the name of Jewry.
     
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    No. Israel depends on smarts, energy, intelligence, and superior military to defend itself. They're magicians on the battlefield!

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    Of course. So?
     
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    If you say so.
     
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    Military seems to be their only chance to survive. What's wrong with them? Do they really believe that mankind depends on military strength and recklessness?
    That's barbarism, bro, not civilisation.
     
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    Indeed, mankind depends on Jews to prosper and propel itself into the 22nd century. Who do you think should mankind should depend on for that? Moslems? :confusion:
     
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    Re:
    What do you mean, "take your ground...."?

    You really mean "...steal someone else's ground..."

    Israel wouldn't exist without $ Trillions in foreign support, foreign arms etc especially from Germany & the US.

    Early support for the Zionist colony came as a result of the Nazi - Zionist Haavara Agreement by which Hitler's government fully co operated with the Zionist German Federation to funnel German aid & arms to Palestine without which it would not likely have survived.

    From 1933 to 1940, German supplies & cash flowed to Palestine along with the many Jews who moved to Palestine after receiving military training in Germany(1), (2) from the SS that formed the Haganah which was later to become the infamous IDF currently carrying out ethnic cleansing in Palestine.

    In the 1950s, Germany again supplied & built virtually all of Israel's critical infrastructure including power plants, grid work, railroads, highways, steel mills, 60 ships, water treatment plants and more.
    Meanwhile, Zionist terrorist gangs were ravaging the countryside committing atrocities that rival any committed during WW 2.

    So, in fact, it was the Germans who "made the deserts bloom"

    Additionally, Germany, again, provided Israel with armament that enabled it to expand beyond its legitimate borders, initiate wars & continue its ethnic cleansing agenda, aka Plan Dalet.

    Much better known is decades of unconditional US "aid" to what is now one of the world's wealthiest countries.
    This "aid" is extracted from American taxpayers by the near omnipotent Israeli lobbies who drive America's Mid East policy to America's severe detriment.
    Because this unconditional aid to Israel comes in many forms, it is impossible to calculate precisely but as of 2002 was factored at about $3 Trillion.

    Yes, Israel is currently a wealthy, regional super power with a rogue nuclear arsenal and a dismal record of apartheid & ethnic cleansing however without the blood, sweat and cash of industrious Germans & easily duped Americans it could not exist as it does today.

    (1) "Nazis SS Funded Nascent Israeli Army"
    https://www.henrymakow.com/israeli_haganah.html

    EXCERPT "In his 1988 book "Blowback," Christopher Simpson says captured SS records documented a covert agreement between the SS and the Haganah, the forerunner of the Israeli Defense Force.

    "Under the arrangement the Haganah was permitted to run training camps for Jewish youth inside Germany. These young people, as well as certain other Jews driven out of Germany by the Nazis, were encouraged to emigrate to Palestine."CONTINUED


    (2) "The Zionist-Nazi Collaboration"
    http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/07/the-zionist-nazi-collaboration/

    EXCERPT " Zionists found common cause with Hitler, Eichmann, and the Nazis and used anti-Semitism and Nazism as a means of achieving their end which was the establishment of a Jewish state."CONTINUED


    (3) “Inside the Germany/Israel Relationship”
    http://www.momentmag.com/inside-germ...-relationship/

    EXCERPTS “Federal Republic of Germany laid the groundwork for Israel’s infrastructure—including roads, railways and shipping—while simultaneously rebuilding West German industry.

    In addition to money, Israel also needed weapons. As early as 1954, German reparation funds were secretly being used to buy patrol boats, tanks and arms. Germany itself supplied Israel with weapons through a variety of back channels. Many details remain untold, but a 2006 U.S. Congressional Research Service report concluded that German-supplied arms “played a considerable role” in building up Israeli military might in the wars of 1967, 1973 and 1982."CONTINUED


    (4) "The Real Cost of US Support for Israel: $3 Trillion"
    http://www.ilaam.net/Intl/RealCostOfIsrael.html

    EXCERPT "While it is commonly reported that Israel officially receives some $3 billion every year in the form of economic aid from the U.S. government, this figure is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many billions of dollars more in hidden costs and economic losses lurking beneath the surface. A recently published economic analysis has concluded that U.S. support for the state of Israel has cost American taxpayers nearly $3 trillion ($3 million millions) in 2002 dollars."CONTINUED
     
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    My father had "us" involved in intellectual discussion
    at the dinner table.
    And my father was not a supporter of Israel until after '67
    and Abba Eban's speech to the U.N.
    Sadly there is no record of it online.
    Talk about eloquent English, even the Arab nations complained.

    My father believed in the U.N.
    I reminded him the U.N. General Assembly created Israel by a 2/3rds majority.

    The real question is who/what prevented the establishment of the
    partitioned Arab State in Palestine?

    It was my first win with my father.
    Genetically Jewish but the family was Jewish, and very assimilationist.

    No one addresses the absence of the Arab State in the partitioned
    Palestine lost to Jordanian and Egyptian dominion.




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    Now!
     
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