FBI's Steele story falls apart: False intel and media contacts were flagged before FISA

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Congress handed Obama a report 2014, Russian election meddling. Obama gave Veselnitskaya a special visa to come work for Fusion GPS, and paid Fusion GPS $972K. Henry Greenberg, special visa, paid by the FBI. Azur Turk, hired by Halper, paid by DoD. Obama's KGB. :lol:
     
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    Don't confuse them with facts.
     
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    Page was working for the FBI back then he wasn't being spied on because he was for Russia. He wore a tap for the FBI to help catch some Russians. Libs have their stories mixed up.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...spy-ring-using-hidden-recorders-idUSKCN0WB2NM

    In the Reuters story they mention a FBI UCE-1, that was Page.
     
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    Well, ****. I guess Trump's conviction of collusion will get tossed now.
     
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    I doubt it will ever get removed from your mind and lefties here @ PF.
     
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    Now when Mueller issued his report
    the media could not contort it
    to save face though they did try.
    They lost all credibility.
    Embarrassed is what they should be,
    and the damage done they cannot deny.

    They gave victory to the president,
    validation as if heaven sent.
    The courtroom was adjourned,
    no verdict was returned.
    And now when he screams about fake news
    he’ll be correct thanks to their ruse.
    The “Witch Hunt” he’ll rightfully accuse
    the day collusion died.

    THE DAY COLLUSION DIED
     
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  7. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes because Russians are so stupid they will continue to have a relation with an FBI informant that took down their agents
    just because your ignorant enough to believe that crap doesn't mean the rest of us are
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    according to McCabe and the congressmen that read the classified application it was the "Bulk" of the application
    and McCabe's own words "no dossier no warrant"
    and yes Steele was getting paid by the FBI until they fired him for talking to the press which they failed to mention in the warrant application
     
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    Worse than Watergate...

    [​IMG]
     
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    We acknowledge that all the time, except that he wasn't under suspicion of being a "secret agent of RUSSSIAAA".

    What you won't acknowledge is that he assisted the FBI with arresting the Russians who were trying to recruit him, and Page was never arrested or charged for anything as a result.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/carter-page-trump-russia.html
     
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    Then why was he under surveillance?
     
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    He wasn't.

    That's why the FBI brought him in and told him what was happening, then he continued to meet the Russians, then the Russians were arrested and Page was not.

    He got caught up in the surveillance of the Russian spies trying to recruit him.

    Read the link I provided.

    Russian intelligence operatives tried in 2013 to recruit an American businessman and eventual foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign who is now part of the F.B.I. investigation into Russia’s interference into the American election, according to federal court documents and a statement issued by the businessman.

    The businessman, Carter Page, met with one of three Russians who were eventually charged with being undeclared officers with Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the S.V.R. The F.B.I. interviewed Mr. Page in 2013 as part of an investigation into the spy ring, but decided that he had not known the man was a spy, and the bureau never accused Mr. Page of wrongdoing.
     
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    Some believe Page was helping the FBI again, he may have been back on their payroll while working for Trump.
     
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    That’s exactly what they did and page admitted it under oath lol
    Way to be up on the topic pal lol
     
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    That's news to me. I thought Steele was an ex-UK intel officer. Anyway, the dossier was oppo research and everyone knew it! And to my knowledge the document was not even the primary reason for granting the FISA warrant.
     
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    then its best you get better informed you can start by not watch CNN and MSNBC
     
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    I did read it and saw those paragraphs. But it never explicitly states that whether he was or wasn't under surveillance. And it leaves a couple of other questions: how did he come to the FBI's attention if he wasn't under surveillance? Why did the Russians target him in their recruiting efforts?


    Below are a few articles I found that explicitly state Page was under FISA surveillance.


    One year into the FBI's Russia investigation, Mueller is on the Trump money trail
    "Page had been the subject of a secret intelligence surveillance warrant since 2014, earlier than had been previously reported, US officials briefed on the probe told CNN"

    Read the Nunes Memo, Annotated
    "For example, it makes no note of the fact that Mr. Page attracted the F.B.I.’s interest in 2013, when agents came to believe that Russian spies were trying to recruit him. The F.B.I. obtained a FISA wiretap order then, as well, according to a person familiar with the matter"

    The Five' debate the significance of the Nunes memo
    "So, if Carter Page is under a FISA warrant starting in 2013. You have to go to the FISA court every 90 days in order to keep up that warrant. We don't know if there was a lapse in the warrant between 2013 and 2015. We don't know if this is a new warrant about Carter Page, right?"
     
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    Perhaps you can enlighten me. Did Steele work for the fbi before or after his tenure at Fusion GPS?
     
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    For political reasons the unverified Piss Dossier was accepted as fact and presented to the FISA court with info left out, with intent to deceive the FISA court. That's the First Cause, or First Phony Domino, of Mueller subsequently being appointed as special counsel.
     
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    They will never have to answer for this. Too many trump haters at the top. We just have to deal with the truth which is:
    Witch hunts can only be conducted against republicans
    Democrats still control this country whether we like it or not and their agenda is 100% "do as I say not as I do"
     
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    HIlarious.
     
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    I know, let's try logic.

    We know the FBI had the Russians under surveillance, as it says they were "known members".

    Known Russian spies talk to US citizen. FBI scratches head and wonders if US citizen is working with Russian spies they already have under surveillance.

    FBI get's FISA warrant to see if Page is colluding with "RUSSSIAAA".

    FBI watches spies and US citizen.

    FBI calls in Page, has meeting with him. Page continues to meet Russian spies.

    Russian spies are arrested, Page is never accused of wrong-doing by the FBI or charged for any crimes.

    Apply logic and reason to that and see if you can figure it out.
     
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    It very well could and Comey looks like a fool who had no idea what was going on at the FBI with his direct subordinates running rough shop over the Constitution and the law or up to his eyeballs in it a lying through his arse. No wonder the Democrats are so intent on pre-smearing Barr for when all this starts to come out.
     
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    To be sung to the tune of My Favorite Things from The Sound of Music.....lol
     
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    You're OK with what we know happened like the State Department warned the FBI about Steele and what he was peddling, that he had totally lied to them about what he knew yet the FBI took him as credible and still used his dossier to seek a FISA warrant without disclosing to the judges that the State Department had just branded him a liar? You're OK with that?
     
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