Trump Admin Inflated Iran Intel, U.S. Officials Say

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  1. Josephwalker

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    I'm not seeing anything here from any official Israeli source calling for the annihilation of Iran and certainly nothing near the official position of Iran that their goal is the elimination of israel.
    "Khamenei, who makes the final decision on major policies, said: 'Some Zionists have said that regarding the result of the nuclear deal they (Israelis) have been relieved of concerns about Iran for 25 years.

    'But we tell them that you will not see the coming 25 years and God willing there will not be something named the Zionist regime in the region.'


    'https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...jects-talks-Great-Satan-U-S-nuclear-deal.html

    Iran’s Khamenei: No Cure for Barbaric Israel but Annihilation

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2014/11/irans-khamenei-israel-must-be-annihilated.html

    Iran president says wipe Israel off the map.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/world/africa/wipe-israel-off-the-map-iranian-says.html
     
  2. Josephwalker

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    Regime yes, entire country no. Huge difference
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is plenty there to show you. I have a feeling you are someone who it is a waste of time to argue with. If you follow Israel news you would know as I do and as others have said the threats against Iran go on and on and on. I have heard them since I first came to political forums. On and On. You want the baddie to be Iran. There is no point arguing with a close book. ;)
     
  4. truth and justice

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    LOL you could not even bother to read your own link but just read the dishonest title!

    Here is the actual twitter post quoted in YOUR link "This barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime of #Israel which spares no crime has no cure but to be annihilated."

    Typical dishonesty from Israeli apologists
     
  5. Josephwalker

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    Obviously there isn't "plenty to show" me or you would do so.;-)
     
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    Oh, BTW glad you acknowledge it. The US and Israel call for the "regime" of Iran to be annihilated all the time. You have quoted the single twitter post time and time again from an Iranian who called for the annihilation of the REGIME OF ISRAEL
     
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    If that was his only statement you'd have a point but in context of previous statements you have nothing.

    You don't surgically remove a regime by nuking the country and calling for that countries "complete destruction" .

    "Iran’s Supreme leader again openly called for Israel’s complete destruction as his country continues its program to develop nuclear weapons and long-range missiles with which to deliver them.

    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei tweeted Sunday that Iran’s “stance against Israel is the same stance we have always taken. Israel is a malignant cancerous tumor in the West Asian region that has to be removed and eradicated: it is possible and it will happen.”

    Khamenei’s tweet over the weekend was followed by an announcement Monday that he had ordered Iranian atomic authorities to increase the nation’s nuclear enrichment capacity, claiming the step did not violate the 2015 nuclear deal, which European countries are desperately trying to salvage after the US’ pull out."

    https://gellerreport.com/2018/06/ir...dicate-israel-restarts-nuclear-activity.html/
     
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    Guess you missed this one.

    Wipe Israel off the map"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/world/africa/wipe-israel-off-the-map-iranian-says.html

    Sound like "regime change" to you?
     
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    The standard line of leftist when they run up against facts that destroy their argument.:)
     
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    Well actually he clarified his statement:
    TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran’s supreme leader has sought to clarify his position on Israel after being accused of threatening its destruction.


    Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was quoted by the official IRNA news agency late Sunday as saying the Mideast conflict should be resolved through a popular referendum among “all real Palestinians, including Muslims, Jews and Christians” who trace their roots back to before the creation of Israel.

    If he really wanted what you quoted he would not have explained what he meant
     
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    Still running?

    Wipe Israel off the map"

    https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/world/africa/wipe-israel-off-the-map-iranian-says.html

    As for the other nut I answered that earlier. He has a long history of calling for the destruction of Israel.
     
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    Already replied. Debunked and straight from your link: Quotes from Ahmadinejad:

    "The World Without Zionism,"
    "The establishment of Zionist regime..."
    "who recognizes the Zionist regime...."


    Which bit don't you understand?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...log.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.81c003b6ec97

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/jun/14/post155

    https://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=21563

    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ast-word-ahmadinejads-wipe-israel-map/337064/
     
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    Oh you got enough, you just are blind to what you do not want to see. I notice it also by your replies to others. Well you want to hear from Politicians so I can tell you that Iran is not intending on starting any wars.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/18/iran-war-us-risk-civilian-aircraft
     
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    There was no difference in Iraq. The "regime change" in Iraq (which you probably supported) caused the entire country to descend into chaos and bloodshed. It also allowed Al Qaeda to establish a strategic foothold inside Iraq and Syria. When are you "regime change" fanatics going to stop pushing the same failed policies on the world? How many more countries must you destroy with your lies and your aggression?
     
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    "Wipe off the map" is painfully clear and no amount of back peddling and obfuscation can change that
     
  18. Josephwalker

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    I gave you several quotes from Iran leadership threatening the very existence of Israel and you couldn't give me a single one from Israel leadership doing the same.
    As far as the backpedaling on threats from Iran goes yeah they do that for consumption of people like you after they get caught in one of their meltdowns threatening to destroy israel. Some statements just can't be walked back but as they say " there's a sucker born every minute". Really though only some are suckers while others know what's going on and are willing participants in the charade.
     
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    Iraq invaded Kuwait and then violated terms of a treaty by shooting at US planes enforcing the no fly zone not to mention violating inspection protocol of possible WMD sites. He gassed Kurds and was a threat to the entire region. Saddam bet that America wouldn't respond and he ran a bluff that failed. The US and the UN were forced into the war by his actions.
     
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    Wow. Someone who still thinks the Iraq war was a good idea. Simply amazing.
     
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    Yo
    You need to get out more.:)
     
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    You're an endangered species.
     
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    Oh please you gave one of Iran when threatened, threatening Israel like boxers do before a fight and went back to the old Ahmadinejad one which as you have been told by Truth and Justice has been debunked more often than said. Ahmadinejad is known as the Iranian Trump. You a Trump supporter? We are talking about Iran and nukes. Iran has never said it is going to nuke Israel or anyone else. Indeed what it has said is that the idea of using nukes is against Islam, though when threatened with its life in the Iran/Iraq war it did engage in things which were.

    I provided you with well known serious calls to nuke Iran. I did though give you the wrong Adelson link for some reason. There are plenty of reports and youtubes of Trumps strongest Donor demanding Iran be nuked. Here is one https://www.timesofisrael.com/sheldon-adelson-calls-on-us-to-nuke-iranian-desert/ Now that is a genuine call from a man who holds the purse strings for the President of the United States to get re elected in 2020 and with Bolton and Pompeo desperate to destroy Iran, much more serious than someone mouthing off.

    The second link I gave you was the answer to the terror which the country of Iran arouses in those with unusually strong fear antennas.

    An Iranian-hosted international disarmament conference concluded Sunday with a demand that Israel join the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to assure a nuclear weapons-free Middle East.

    I then gave you a link to a New York Times article which says that Israel already has 200 nukes pointed at Iran. Now that is much stronger evidence of the desire to destroy Iran than someone mouthing off when threatened.

    Both of these showed you, you were looking in the wrong place for the solution.

    Finally I linked to an article on Israel talking about a pre emptive nuclear strike on Iran. That is what I remember being talked about prior to the new deal, which Iran is still keeping, and which you want her destroyed for so doing. She may be letting go of some of the things she voluntarily agreed too and may let go gradually of that deal. Trump and his friends have virtually made her.

    Now two countries not getting on. We want to have peace. Which country would you attack if you were stupid enough to believe attack causes peace. Clearly you would attack the one being the most belligerent. My posts proved that is Israel. Like I said you refuse to see what you do not want to and in that you are somewhat disingenuous.
     
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    And, Iran has sponsors!



    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/indepth/2018/12/19/Iran-turns-to-BRICS-nations-as-sanctions-build



    :)
     
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    And? So what?

    The US in turn gives Israel a wildcard to do the worst things ... things that they would not allow to any other country in the world! And then all wrapped up nicely with the phrase that the Isrelis fight back against terrorism ... even though most things have nothing to do with terrorism.
    ISrael has the most powerful armed forces in the ME, nuclear armed ... basically patrolling an atomically armed, Israeli submarine in firing distance to Iran to carry out a devastating second strike ... that Israel still does not allow an inspector to access its nuclear facilities. .. all that is unimportant.
    And who criticizes all this, of course, is anti-Semitic .... ROFL!

    Iran has been propagating the destruction of Israel for 40 years ... and everyone knows that they are not capable of doing so. And in order to prevent possible nuclear armament, the deal is concluded, which was about nothing more than the nuclear armament, because only this is important. But no ... Donald fool at White House ends the deal with lies and false claims ...

    We remember his first security adviser, Michael T. Flynn? Already had a ready attack plan against Iran in the drawer at that time! That says all.... and reminds to Bush Jr. who still in election campaign told that Saddam must be eleminated by war!
     

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