Evidence Shows Sexual Orientation Can Change

The concept of “sexual orientation” is multi-faceted, involving a combination of attractions, behaviors, and personal identity. Changes in any of these elements (sometimes called “sexual fluidity”), and a lack of “stability” or “exclusivity” in or among them, represents evidence that sexual orientation can change. This paper reports results from four large data sets reflecting longitudinal analysis of the same individuals over time in population-based samples (three from the United States and one from New Zealand). All demonstrate that significant change in each of the elements of sexual orientation is possible. The percentage changing from homosexuality to heterosexuality ranged from 13% to 53%, while the percentage changing from heterosexuality to homosexuality ranged only from 1% to 12%. This suggests that heterosexuality is largely stable but homosexuality is not. In one survey of “same-sex attracted respondents,” up to 38% of men and 53% of women “changed to heterosexuality” in only a six-year period. https://www.frc.org/sexualorientation This is an interesting article before and after the clip above. It shows that being gay is not immutable and that change is not only possible but that it happens often. Orientation often changes in people.

 

The rest of the publication....https://downloads.frc.org/EF/EF19C38.pdf

 

I can't say I'm surprised, particularly in the case of women, whose sexuality is pretty fluid across the board, but this runs counter to the evidence from other studies that say sexuality cannot be changed intentionally, either by oneself or by others, and that the harm caused by the attempt can be substantial. That's not to say that I support gay marriage, or gay rights in contradiction to Christian rights, but I would caution anyone who wished to use this information to start a new crusade to "fix the gays".

 

Does that mean that sexuality is less likely genetic and that we are more a product of our environment?

 

I not only believe it can change but that
more of the population is naturally "bi"
then declared.
Our system requires a polarity.
I learned that in Sex Ed. in Medical School.

 

FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL

The Family Research Council (FRC) bills itself as “the leading voice for the family in our nation’s halls of power,” but its real specialty is defaming gays and lesbians.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council

 

No need or desire to compel a fix or change. Since it’s not immutable then the SPLC hate label of conservative and Christian groups opposed to gay marriage as hate is more questionable than it already is. Also they can’t coerce bakers, florists, calligraphers, photographers, etc into expressions that support gay marriage ceremonies

 

The SPLC is itself a terrorist inspiring hate group. They have also been affected by sexist and racist acts by leadership and employees. Their judgement in this matter is less than worthless. The only thing more worthless are groups that content control or censor based on the judgement of the bigots at the SPLC.

 

There's been numerous cases of women suffering horrendous physical & sexual abuse in their childhood or mid-teen years and turning out lesbian.

I don't know if that truly actually counts as lesbian though because these women are deeply messed up (understandably) and have been scarred for life against men.

 

My brother was a homosexual and died at age 43. (B 1941 D 1984) If he lived he would be 77

Cram it up the tail pipe with the best of them. Died per the doctor from excessive beer drinking.

Why do you suppose a homosexual that young and assuming the role of the ... ahem ...wife, died so young? He lived on Staten Island. Worked at Manhattan.

In a 5 hour car trip that he rode with me in my car, as I drank no booze, he drank from a 24 pack and flat out drank all of it.

Why wasn't his life all whipped Cream and peanut butter and Jelly sandwiches?

 

I never got the chance to talk to many Lesbians however in 1965 back home from the Army, only still in NY City, for a week lived with my homo brother, some Lesbians did come over. They told me some troubled miserable stories. They seemed not to have any use for their parents.

 

You have that female actress Catherine Bell who has adult children and divorced her husband. And lives as the lover of some woman. Why did she flip from normal wife to lesbian?

She is hot. Such a waste of pulchritude.

 

Tony Perkins (politician)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Perkins_(politician)

This guy seems like a real all around jerk.

Is there a cure for that?

 

You mean stories of molestation by their parents?

 

If she's with someone who she wants to be with and that someone wants to be with her, how is that a waste?

Now it's pick on lesbian time?

Are there any groups that the "right" is alright with other than themselves? Or are they crummy, too?

 

They're crummy, too. The Republicans in Congress have shown themselves to be spineless weasels who can't or won't do anything they promised, up to and including defunding Planned Parenthood. Worthless bunch of bastards. If the nomination of Trump hadn't driven me from the Republican party, that would have anyway.

That said, we're not nearly as "intolerant" as the left likes to paint us. Opposing certain policies doesn't mean we hate gays or want to reinstate Jim Crow or throw sick people out in the street. It means we have a different viewpoint about what's good for people, for society, for America. Having 99% of the people on the dole at the expense of the 1% is not good for America. Simples.

 

What's good about the topic of this thread?

 

It's a good reminder that the left is trying to make a civil right out of something that isn't a biological reality set in stone like race, sex, or age.

 

Do you have a link for this? I knew male homosexuals are somewhere between 90-100% victims of homosexual abuse in their early teens, but this is the first I've heard of it for lesbians. Most strippers and prostitutes are the victims of childhood sexual abuse, but lesbians?

Did a little digging. This paper (link) showed a higher likelihood for lesbians to have been sexually abused as children than heterosexuals, but the number was still low at 30%. That means 70% of self-identified lesbian women were not victims of childhood sexual abuse. That's a very different result from the male homosexual population.

 

People change religions, too.

No civil rights for that?

Aside from that, I sure as hell wouldn't trust the opinions or agenda of Tony Perkins or the Family Research Council.

Sorry, this thread is just more propaganda and hate from the right, this time aimed at gay people.

 

Not everything you disagree with is "propaganda" or "hate". This actually fits with an earlier study that showed that far from being the stable higher income white people who are in homosexual relationships, it's mainly unstable lower income minorities who are in homosexual relationships. Most homosexual relationships last three years or less, and most homosexual "marriages" tend to be of the "open" sort, with no limits on the partners' extra-marital relations. Many of those in homosexual relationships had been in heterosexual relationships previously and had no objection to being in one again in the future. These are very different behaviors from heterosexuals, who tend to only date the opposite sex, and heterosexual marriages, which tend to be long-lasting and monogamous.

 

Everything.

 

That is the stated desire of the FRC. They see homosexuality as a sin and want all homosexuals to repent their sin, which would involve stop being homosexual.

You’re wrong. “Immutability” is not a requirement for a characteristic to be hated or subject of discrimination. Would you like an example? Religion.

 

No kidding.

But this appears to be propaganda and hate.

I'm not going to listen to you on this any more than the Family Research Council.

As far as stats about relationships and how the president and many right wingers cheat on their wives and do all kinds of other perverse things...

so what?

What the frick difference does it make. Other than they are huge hypocrites.

What does any of this have to do with Civil Rights?

Nothing.

It's just another complete load of hate and propaganda.

 

Nothing.

It's bunk.

The right just can't stop their game of hate and lies.