The Tate Plan for a Basic Minimum Income for all Canadians.

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Can a Basic Minimum Income be financed by PRODUCTIVITY?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I joined the People's Party of Canada soon after it was began by Mr. Maxime Bernier. The members of the local Electoral District Association want me to represent the PPC here in Central Nova but I suggested that my confirmation be delayed until June 23 so that they have some time to digest how big a campaign platform I really have in mind.

    There is another candidate all ready to get set up if what I have in mind is just too controversial for the PPC.

     
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    The foundation for a Basic Minimum Income financed by PRODUCTIVITY
    rather than taxation was laid in my 2004 campaign writing:


    My 2006, 2008, 2016 and 2004 campaign writings as ART.

    Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy
    Written by Melvin Sickler on Wednesday, 01 October 2003. Posted in United States

    The Public-Debt Problem
    Written by Alain Pilote on Monday, 30 June 1986. Posted in In This Age of Plenty (book)

    [/quote]


    (post #6):
     
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    Here is another explanation for this:

    The Government Must Create Its Own Money
    Written by Alain Pilote on Monday, 31 October 1994. Posted in In This Age of Plenty (book)

     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Let me guess...

    "For those unable, or unwilling, to work.", right?

    Ugh, commies suck.
     
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    WRONG!!!!

    My plan is for this Basic Minimum Income to go to ALL THIRTY SEVEN MILLION CANADIAN CITIZENS and even to full fledged residents of Canada.

    I would love for it to not even be taxable.......
    but that could make it impossible to sell......
    and I actually want to sell this idea to Mr. Maxime Bernier and
    set the stage for him to be elected Prime Minister of Canada in October of 2019.

    Mr. Bernier would clearly make the coolest Prime Minister of all possible options available:



    Maxime Bernier: The Next Prime Minister of Canada? (Full Interview)
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    How am I wrong? If it's going to go to every Canadian, then it's going to go to every canuck, including those that are unable, and unwilling, to work, right?

    "500 loonies'll buy a lot of weed and Molson, eh?"
     
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    Mr. Maxime Bernier is seriously in there with Canada's Pro- Life community and they
    have the influence to bring Canada's conservative movement over to his assistance.......

    Now to introduce you to the young woman who is quite capable of taking Mr. Maxime Bernier's
    campaign over the top:






    https://www.facebook.com/lauralynn.t.thompson/posts/10157359835804319

    More information on Mr. Maxime Bernier's welcoming of Pro-Life Canadians to his newly formed People's Party of Canada can be researched here:

    Maxime Bernier welcomes Pro-life Canadians to People's Party of Canada.

     
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    The theory behind universal income is that if you give everybody a guvmint-issued paycheck just for breathing air, then you can scale back entitlement programs, because your citizens all have the money to take care of their own basic needs. The thinking is that you'll save more money than you spend when the entitlement programs, and all the bureaucracy that runs them, is eliminated.

    Sounds great on paper, but it sucks in application.

    It would only work if the people who pissed their money away on dumb crap were then allowed to land on their heads when they fall into the gutter.

    Of course, the bleeding heart lefties would NEVER allow any special snowflake to fall on their head in the gutter, so the safety net(read: hammock) would still be there to catch the dirtbags before they fell on their heads. So the universal income accomplished nothing but handing out weed and Molson money to dirtbags to make them more comfortable as they relax in the welfare hammock.
     
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    Does Canada have a President, or do you just let the trapper with the tallest pile of beaver pelts, and the sissiest French accent, be the viceroy of your primitive wilderness settlements?
     
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    You are correct... .a segment of the population of Canada will make bad choices with
    their Basic Minimum Income but....... the MAJORITY of Canadians will
    decide to do some renovations on their homes and properties.......
    or buy a newer car or half ton truck........
    or buy organic rather than cheap GMO veggies.......
    or buy their first home......
    or buy a lot on a lake to build a cottage........

    and our construction industry and real estate markets should surge!
     
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    My idea is to attempt to sell the idea of a Basic Minimum Income to Canada's Pro-Life community first.......
    based on my theory that maybe.... just maybe.... there could be a connection between the terrible 1974 decision by
    Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau with the Roe vs Wade decision in the USA in 1973?????

    Can we learn about the Washington Swamp from the Ottawa Swamp?

    Does the Ottawa Swamp and the Washington Swamp have the common denominator of ELITISM?





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    What Mr. Maxime Bernier is doing seems to be to give ordinary Canadians like myself an opportunity to
    campaign for public office and shake up Canadian politics. I am a janitor at a school and the probability of my
    being chose to represent any other of the political parties would have been close to zero.
     
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    One of the dumbest things that I ever did in my life was
    quit taking French classes after completing Grade 7 French.

    By the time that I went to St. Francis Xavier University in Antigonish I
    had came to deeply regret that decision so I signed up to take French again
    in my second year of Business Admin classes.....but.......
    French at the university level is all French in all classes...... and I just barely scraped a pass mark out of that
    class...... and I had to work quite a bit to make it through......

    Canada is bi-lingual and I am really glad that my English speaking ancestors, in spite of their many, many, many flaws......
    at least managed to maintain relatively peaceful relations with Canada's French speaking communities....... (most of the time anyway with some notable exceptions).
    Acadian Expulsion (the Great Upheaval)


    Mr. Maxime Bernier is Canada's most courageous, blunt and honest national leader of a major political party
    and over the coming months he could jump into the lead if he plays his cards well:

     
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    Don't despair. We've got a bubbleheaded bartender in Congress down here who thinks 3 + potato = Profit!
     
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    How about the sales of weed and Molson?

    They'd go through the roof!
     
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    I had bleeding ulcers when I was four years old......
    and rheumatoid arthritis by the time I was fourteen so I developed the habit of
    reading a lot....... so I get worried about things that most Canadians and Americans don't tend to
    know much about.


    Back on May 20 I put out a message designed to begin the luring of Mr. Peter MacKay back into politics
    although he would almost certainly continue as a member of Canada's Conservative Party and if he
    decided to run again in Central - Nova he would almost certainly defeat me........ .but I did it anyway.......
    because I feel that lives are in danger.........
    and Canada's needs the leadership of the best people available at this time.

    I don't casually send off messages through Facebook pages and groups to officials in the USA.....
    but I felt that I needed to do so under these present set of circumstances:

    Proposed Republic of Western Canada and Unified Field Theory of M.W.P.

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's daring political gambits have residents of Alberta close to being willing to leave the Confederation of Canada.........
    I would love to see Mr. Peter MacKay come back into government to use his skills and experience to prevent this from happening.

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau initiated what I have came to think of as the
    Reverse.... .Nancy Pelosi.... .Wrap Up Smear..... .on himself.......
    (four negatives = a positive = a landslide victory back in 2015)!

    Steve Long comments on Canadian election........

    By deliberately being rude to Pastor Steve Long, Pastor John Arnott and their wives.........
    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau got a backlash from the most hated segment of Canadian culture......... Christians..... which he used like a wave and surfed that wave into a majority Liberal government in 2015!
     
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    True..... .sales of weed and Molsons will also go through the roof!

    You are correct about that...... but Mr. Maxime Bernier and I are very Libertarian in our approach to politics......
    and that is a choice that I want Canadians to be free to make themselves!

    But.... what number of Canadian women who are pregnant will choose to
    bring their child to full term and raise their child or give their child up for adoption as opposed to having an abortion...... IF..... Canadians are given a Basic Minimum Income that can be financed through the Bank of Canada that is owned by all Canadian citizens anyway!????????????
     
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    I admit that it may sound strange for me to attempt to encourage Mr. Peter MacKay to
    get involved in Canadian government again but.......
    CIA economist Mr. Jim Rickards has me so worried that I put a variation on this
    proposal in front of P. M. Benjamin Netanyahu and his supporters back on May 3, 2018:

    P. M. Netanyahu, President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....

    It is traditional for Canadian troops to go into a major world war first..... and
    then USA troops go in a few months later to help us. This was the
    way things were done in both WWI and WWII so if CIA economist Mr. Jim Rickards is
    correct that we are in the Economic Part of WWIII.......
    then it seems appropriate that we Canadians should go in first!

    My plan ..... once it is understood...... is to turn Canada into a nation of INVESTORS!

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...
     
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    I absolutely agree with Mr. David Sutherland's insightful comment on this subject:


    David Sutherland:
    Off the top of my head I would like to see Canadians given a quite high level of income before they begin to pay income taxes at all. There are numbers used to determine what the poverty level is......... and zero income tax until Canadians go over the poverty line is one way that the Canadian taxation system has been tweaked to be fairly reasonable.

    I also want to see income taxes lowered and lowered until they are at very low levels.... .and pretty much only used to catch people who are misbehaving such as was done to Al Capone!




    On This Day: Al Capone Convicted of Income Tax Evasion
    October 17, 2011 06:00 AM
     
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    There is a saying that about twenty percent of the population pay about eighty percent of the taxes and do about eighty percent of the work. I do believe that there is some truth in that idea.

    I have to admit that the method of financing this Basic Minimum Income that I have explained here is rather complicated and will generate backlash but...... .there is a much more simple way to look at this topic.

    Compound Interest over time grows to astronomical levels.

    Since private banks are being used to create a huge percentage of Canada's total money supply we are actually creating MORE DEBT THAN MONEY.

    This is not a particularly intelligent thing to do so....... is there an alternative?

    Yes......... the total of all loans to all levels of government, business and individuals can be known, (with the exception of what loan sharks are loaning out because they don't claim income or pay income tax on their revenue).

    The total amount of COMPOUND INTEREST OWING on all debts at all levels can be known at this time and....... it is THEORETICALLY POSSIBLE TO PUT A DIFFERENT NAME ON THE EXCESS OF INTEREST OWING....... minus Interest payable on saving accounts......... and the DIFFERENCE COULD THEORETICALLY BE CREATED AND PUT ON THE BOOKS AS AN ASSET TO LARGELY FINANCE THIS BASIC MINIMUM INCOME FOR ALL CANADIANS!

    How is that for simplicity?

    What should this be named?

    How about the "Jubilee Initiative" after some of the brilliant ideas put forward by Moses / Moshe?

    Was Moses - Moshe a brilliant economist?


    "And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
    And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)


    Thirty cms X 15 = 4.5 meters.
    The difference from low tide to high tide where I live is about one meter but around Truro, N. S. it is about fifteen meters so...... the logic of a 15X multiplier in the area of the eastern Bay of Fundy does have a basis in basic Physics.

    If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...


    ... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?

    This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.

    In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters.


     
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    Um, what's the frequency, Kenneth?
     
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    "No wonder then that the national debts of all the civilized countries in the world are reaching astronomical proportions. For example, Canada's national debt, which was $24 billion in 1975, is now over $500 billion, and the interest on this debt costs over $40 billion per year, or about one third of all the taxes collected by the Federal Government; this percentage keeps increasing year after year. So, to satisfy the bankers, the Government must slash all its other expenditures."

    The Canadian Federal borrows from banks rather than selling bonds?
     
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    Exactly!!!!!

    We Canadians own our own bank....... the Bank of Canada.....
    Our relatively competent and ethical federal and provincial level politicians used it from 1939 to 1974
    to put roughly half the money supply into the Canadian economy.

    We financed our part in WWII..... we built highways, schools, hospitals, universities and
    lots of infrastructure. The provinces borrowed the money from the Bank of Canada...... then the
    provinces passed the loans on to cities, towns, municipalities at a low rate of interest to build whatever they had to build........but.......

    ... here is something really wild........
    when the provinces repaid the Bank of Canada..... for those loans to build infrastructure or other projects........
    THE BANK OF CANADA PUT THE MONEY back INTO
    THE CANADIAN TREASURY just like we Canadians do when we pay taxes............
    so the net cost to the Canadian taxpayer was close to zero............

    .... the only cost for all the infrastructure that was financed through the Bank of Canada was the fees of the Bank of Canada to
    pay Bank of Canada employees........

    The situation in the USA is somewhat different because the name Federal...... in the
    title......"Federal Reserve"..... is rather misleading!!!!!!!

    Three Canadian economists really explained this whole thing clearly back in 1996...... but since then.... it is hard to find experts who will go up against the guys who own the media..... and even attempt to tackle this topic....... because the guys who own the media...... do not want this to be understood by ordinary Canadians..... .or Americans.... because they are terrified about what could happen considering that President Donald Trump while campaigning called for an auditing of the Federal Reserve!

    The Bank of Canada Must Finance our Country, Debt-Free
    Technically.... I've read that the Bank of Canada seldom went over creating more than twenty five percent of the money supply of Canada but........
    when we look at the long term......
    and calculate the CLAW BACK EFFECT OF COMPOUND INTEREST by the private banks......... the statements made by these three economists that the Bank of Canada was in actually creating roughly half of Canada's money supply is I believe quite accurate.

    This is a situation that Americans should be looking at very closely!

    In 1974 Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau abandoned this truly brilliant system.........
    my theory is that he was pressured into doing so by people capable of destroying him through their media organizations.........

    and part of their reasoning was perhaps..... EUGENICS!!!!

    1973 THE USA has Roe vs Wade.... and one year later Canada's Prime Minister makes arguably the biggest blunder made by a sitting Prime Minister in fifty years. There is a possible connection!

    Here are the statistics for deaths among African Americans since 1973:

    Abortion............15.5 million
    Heart disease.....2,715, 416
    Cancer ...............2,568,040
    Accidents ..............447,803
    Violent crimes .......354,392
    AIDS .....................245,322

    Of course OPEC oil prices played a role but...... it is impossible to drive the national debt of the USA up like this graph shows:

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    Unless something similar is organized for Canada at the same time:


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    Can we learn about the Washington Swamp from the Ottawa Swamp?

     
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    So far where it has been tried it has not made people more productive. When you know where to feed, you find the trough. All that happens is that people feel better about not doing much.
     
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