Trump says Russia 'helped me get elected' for first time in furious outburst at Mueller

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...struction-a8936496.html?utm_source=reddit.com

    You know, there's pretty much no evidence that Trump has ties to Russia, except for the...

    - Flynn Thing
    - Manafort Thing
    - Tillerson Thing
    - Sessions Thing
    - Kushner Thing
    - Wray Thing
    - Morgan, Lewis, & Bockius "Russian Law Firm of the Year" Thing
    - Carter Page Thing
    - Roger Stone Thing
    - Felix Sater Thing
    - Boris Epshteyn Thing
    - Rosneft Thing
    - Gazprom Thing (see above)
    - Sergey Gorkov banker Thing
    - Azerbaijan Thing
    - "I Love Putin" Thing
    - Lavrov Thing
    - Sergey Kislyak Thing
    - Oval Office Thing
    - Gingrich Kislyak Phone Calls Thing
    - Russian Business Interest Thing
    - Emoluments Clause Thing
    - Alex Schnaider Thing
    - Hack of the DNC Thing
    - Guccifer 2.0 Thing
    - Mike Pence "I don't know anything" Thing
    - Russians Mysteriously Dying Thing
    - Trump's public request to Russia to hack Hillary's email Thing
    - Trump house sale for $100 million at the bottom of the housing bust to the Russian fertilizer king Thing
    - Russian fertilizer king's plane showing up in Concord, NC during Trump rally campaign Thing
    - Nunes sudden flight to the White House in the night Thing
    - Nunes personal investments in the Russian winery Thing
    - Cyprus bank Thing
    - Trump not Releasing his Tax Returns Thing
    - The Republican Party's rejection of an amendment to require Trump to show his taxes thing
    Election Hacking Thing
    - GOP platform change to the Ukraine Thing
    - Steele Dossier Thing
    - Sally Yates Can't Testify Thing
    - Intelligence Community's Investigative Reports Thing
    - Trump reassurance that the Russian connection is all "fake news" Thing
    - Chaffetz not willing to start an Investigation Thing
    - Chaffetz suddenly deciding to go back to private life in the middle of an investigation Thing
    - Appointment of Pam Bondi who was bribed by Trump in the Trump University scandal appointed to head the investigation Thing The White House going into cover-up mode, refusing to turn over the documents related to the hiring and firing of Flynn Thing
    - Chaffetz and White House blaming the poor vetting of Flynn on Obama Thing
    - Poland and British intelligence gave information regarding the hacking back in 2015 to Paul Ryan and he didn't do anything Thing
    - Agent M16 following the money thing
    - Trump team KNEW about Flynn's involvement but hired him anyway Thing
    - Let's Fire Comey Thing
    - Election night Russian trademark gifts Things
    - Russian diplomatic compound electronic equipment destruction Thing
    - Let's give back the diplomatic compounds back to the Russians Thing
    - Let's Back Away From Cuba Thing
    - Donny Jr met with Russians Thing
    - Donny Jr emails details "Russian Government's support for Trump" Thing
    - Trump's secret second meeting with his boss Putin Thing
    - The Trump tweet admitting Russia helped get him elected Thing
     
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    Let's take a moment to respond to his tweet on the subject of Mueller's investigation (his tweet in italics, response in bold).

    The Greatest Presidential Harassment in history. After spending $40,000,000 over two dark years,

    Paid for by the seizure of ill gotten gains of criminals.
    with unlimited access, people, resources and cooperation,
    Lie. Trump evaded an interview and allowed no access to himself or his family.
    highly conflicted Robert Mueller would have brought charges, if he had ANYTHING,
    No, he wouldn’t have because he couldn’t have. The OLC policy memo is binding precedent by which Mueller was obligated to oblige.
    but there were no charges to bring!
    The charge for anyone not holding the title of POTUS is obstruction of justice, at the very least 4 counts.
    Russia, Russia, Russia! That’s all you heard at the beginning of this Witch Hunt Hoax...And now Russia has disappeared because I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected.
    So at least he admits that Russia helped him get elected.
    It was a crime that didn’t exist.
    Russia helping him get elected IS the crime. The question is whether Trump actively engaged with Russian government officials to further that effort. It turns out, that’s a pretty narrow interpretation given how the Russian government operates with cutout organizations specifically so that it can later maintain plausible deniability.
    So now the Dems and their partner, the Fake News Media,..... ....say he fought back against this phony crime that didn’t exist,
    You’ve already admitted that Russia helped you get elected...which is the crime and most definitely occurred.
    this horrendous false acquisition,
    ****ing moron
    and he shouldn’t fight back, he should just sit back and take it.
    I’m sure criminals across America feel the same way when they’re being investigated for what they deem “bogus” offenses. Subjects of investigations don’t get to decide if said investigations are legitimate. It’s not up to you to decide, Donnie Dumbfuck.
    Could this be Obstruction?
    Why, YES!
    No, Mueller didn’t find Obstruction either.
    YES. YES. HE. DID.
    Presidential Harassment!
    I’m sure if you keep saying this it’ll catch on eventually! Keep trying, Bud!
     
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  3. Steve N

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    Not only is that extremely thin and a reference to the left's accusations that Russia helped Trump, but any help Trump may have received came when Obama was president, you know, the time when he had his intelligence agencies spying on Trump and even had someone in his campaign. Those spies along with a two year rectal exam of everything Trump turned up nothing. The election was part not wanting Obama's third term, part millions of people despising Clinton, and part people just loving a guy who's not part of the swamp.

    The bottom line is unless anyone can prove Russia changed votes people willingly made at the request of Trump, then the left has nothing.
     
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    Only took 2 years for you guys to admit russia helped trump. Baby steps I guess
     
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    Trump, like everyone else, is not qualified to make that claim. While they did interfere, it is impossible to determine if their efforts changed a single vote.
     
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    What votes did Russia change? I've said it before, if a few thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads managed to change the course of a multi billion dollar election cycle then all I can say is thanks to the Clinton voting liberals who saw those ads and switched their vote to Trump.

    Come on, to believe Russia influenced the outcome of the election, one would have to believe liberals are that easy to fool. And let's not forget about the anti Trump antics russia pulled, that always seems to get dismissed almost as much as when Trump said 'they let you.'
     
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    make it easier for (someone) to do something by offering one's services or resources.

    They gave him ammo and took his ***** tape off the front page. That’s help.
     
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    Why do you guys always pretend the Russian interference was just Facebook ads? Do you think anyone forgot the dnc hack?
     
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    And if Putin was involved, he now knows that his willing idiots in the Democrat party will be all to willing to assist him in tearing down whoever he smiles at.

    You have to be a moron not to understand that, if he was involved, his only aim is to harm the country.

    Leftists are only too happy to oblige with turning America into Communist Russia.
     
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    Lmao so russia helps your guy and your party via the NRA, and you have the balls to blame democrats? Lmao
    Trump spent 2 years denying it was russia and claiming he trusts putin more than his own Intel heads lol
     
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    LMAO you think Putin would want to help any US president.

    His only goal, if he has one, is to turn American against American, and you gleefully take a bite.

    I see you still fail to understand basic ideas.

    If you trust the intel heads, you're a fool.

    Robert Mueller is the man who told us Saddam had WMD.
     
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    The DNC hack the FBI wasn't allowed to investigate, or was the server finally turned over to them?
     
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    Of course you'd read what I said and still be his willing lackey.
     
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    No, he wants us to believe that though.

    The only information we know of that says Russia hacked the DNC comes from the DNC.
     
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    Nope. That's interference in an attempt to help. You are as qualified as Trump to make that claim. I have yet to hear of a single person changing their vote based on what Russia tried to do.

    If anything, he helped Hillary by opening his mouth.
     
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    Ah back to pretending it wasn’t russia? Lol
    You think the dnc framed russia? And all of trumps Intel chiefs are in on it? Jesus even trump admits it was Russia lol
     
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    Putin said it wasn’t him and you believe him lol
     
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    No, what we know is that the FBI took it's information from Crowdstrike, who works for the DNC.

    Your intel heads regurgitated the product of a DNC employee.

    If you accept that at face value, well, the result is obvious.
     
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    So Putin gave the Clintons millions and millions of dollars but he can't be trusted. Apparently both Clintons trusted him....until she lost.

    Hey, since Russia stole the election from Clinton, did she ever return the money they gave her?
     
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    Or I could just look at the evidence and use my brain. I know that's frowned on in leftist circles.

    I should take Crowdstrike at their word and bleat and drool like a good leftist.
     
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    What DNC hack???

    ..

    ..

    Oh yeah, that one...
     
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    Mueller conclude no conspiracy. It’s over
     
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    My Intel heads? Trump appointed these guys! Lol
    So he’s framing Russia for something they didn’t do? Why?
    Did you read the evidence that it was Russia? How do you explain it?
    A: you didn’t and can’t
     
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    What was on the server the DNC didn't want the FBI to see? The ONLY reason why the DNC wouldn't not involve the FBI after claiming to have their political activities hacked by a foreign government who the left says is hostile is because they did not want the FBI, i.e. people with the power to make arrests, see what was on the server. Do you have a better explanation?
     

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