The Reason China Will Beat America

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    Those are cultural issues that forced their way into politics
     
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    President Trump and I agree with you for once

    It is stupid trade policies given to china by swapmp rat politicians in washington that allow china to take advantage of us
     
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    As long as free trade morons in washington allow china to steal our innovations why should it bother to innovate?
     
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    The chinese people dont mind living under the communist party dictatorship

    And they are not opposed to the idea of china being the worlds only superpower

    You better wake up to reality before its too late
     
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    China has had only one party and ruling government since 1949

    That is a very revealing number
     
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    Because Trump is a self-proclaimed deal maker. There was a report on National Geography about the early US economic tycoons like Rockefeller, Carnegy, J.P. Morgan, etc. ... where then active and former CEOs of large US companies made comments and comments ... including Trump!

    One of his comments was:
    "If I do a negotiation with someone and the other does not get angry after the trial and the closing of the deal, then I made a mistake and I am angry ... because then there was more for me to get in the negotiation!"

    That is the way how Tru,p makes politics and how he sees diplomacy! Compromises and equal partnerships, consideration for each other's interests do not have much space in this Trump worldview ... if there is room at all!

    We learned that in Europe very quickly, during the lat 2 years and that's why he has these tough problems with us in Europe ... because, as the old saying goes, "As it sounds into the cave, it will sound as echo back!"
     
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    China Inc. has a totalitarian form of government run by the Chinese communist party. Dissent and you will not see the light of day for a long time.
     
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    Trump places US interests first. I like that in a leader.
     
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    Well ... 1 lesser as you have in the US, eh?

    But unfortunately not really true, because in China there are officially 8 political parties ... even if that is all just a farce and comedy ... and only one party has the almighty power! ;-)
     
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    That's absurd. China has more than one party ?? Ridiculous. Why do you apologize for China ??

    The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower - Pillsbury - 2015
     
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    Sure ... "Make America Great again" and "America Frist" ... But woe if you walk behind this facade of the two statements ... then the farce becomes directly clear!

    For one thing, the US is no longer in a global position to act so egoically and impose its will on others ...
    On the other hand, it harms the US and the American citizen in the end ... which unfortunately is slowly becoming more and more Americans aware.

    Just ask the US farmers, who can no longer sell their agricultural products in China because of the trade war and difficult if not at all ... as with the genetically modified soybeans ... have alternative markets than China. They are facing ruin here and will certainly not give Trump their vote anymore.
    Or this amazement of Americans, why suddenly US products "Made in the USA" became more expensive for Americans after the punitive tariffs on steel and aluminum ... to protect the 140,000 jobs of US steel foundries.
    Why is the washing machine "Made in the USA" of the US manufacturer "X" suddenly more expensive and not only the imported washing machines ... was asked here some time ago seriously in the forum? Strange ... the price of steel in the US suddenly increased drastically because of the punitive tariffs and washing machines are made of steel, so the washing machine is also more expensive!

    And this are only 2 examples...
     
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    Where do I apologize China please? HELLO? Did you read my complete post till the end? Obviously not!

    And that in China are officially 8 parties is a fact ... if you say wrong, then refute it with proof please!
     
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    They live in relative prosperity. This is like the best period of their nation. Why should they mind living under communist dictatorship?

    That’s the same reason many Russians are missing USSR. Between 1950s and 1980s they had the best and most prosperous times they ever had, even though they seemed poor from Western standards.
     
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    Your opinion of china and America is meaningless to me

    This is a clash of superpowers and you are not invited
     
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    Some are prosperous and many are not

    But they have all grown up in a closed society where the truth is seldome told to them

    And they are very nationalistic

    Something that trump haters hate about trump voters

    When a larger nation that is unified in purpose meets a smaller nation that is divided by so many issues as America is the result is usually bad for the nation not practicing nationalism
     
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    The trade deficit is shrinking, tariffs are working.

    Make America Strong Again.
     
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    Read a book on negotiation. I'd suggest the Art of the Deal. BTW what happened recently to the tariffs on Canadian and Mexican goods ?? And please don't confuse the 5% tariff proposed on Mexican goods until they show progress on closing their southern border and reducing the illegal alien influx into the US.
     
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    There is one and only one political party in China.
     
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    There are a billion people living in China on less than $2000 per year.

    There are ~ 50,000,000 people collectively from Red China and the USSR who lost their lives due to totalitarian communism. Did they live in prosperity ??
     
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    And why shall Mexico play the rule of US border patrol? Do you pay them for it?

    Anyway ... what happened in trade between Canda and EU, as well Japan and EU? ... Art of making Deals that give advantages for both and no forcing of will of one above the other!
     
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    It is their interest to do so.
     
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    For what? Not to be punished by the US on criminal and impudent way?

    OK ... makes you even more ridiculous than you have become since Trump took office. Drive more others into the arms of your opponents and destroy confidence in the US!
    Perhaps Mexico should aspire to strive with China for closer trade relations or even more ... would fit, because China is very thirsty for oil, what Mexico has masses and other things like soybeans can always go in the future then from Mexico to China ?

    Would be a wise solution for Mexico, right?
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Lol ... be aware about facts better and don't live in Utopia States of America. But OK ... Freedom of Speech and Mind ... believe what you want, but don't cry when realities will awake you hard!
     
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    Mexico is being incentivized to act responsibly.
     

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