Would a Basic Minimum Income dramatically reduce abortions?

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Will a Minimum Basic Income dramatically reduce the incidence of abortions?

  1. Perhaps by 1- 10 percent over the present rate.

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  2. Perhaps by 11 to twenty percent over the present rate.

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  3. Perhaps twenty one to thirty percent over the present rate.

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  4. Perhaps by even more than by thirty percent?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    President Trump knows that the national debt of the USA is a myth perpetuated on an astonishing ignorant population of metaphorical sheep and goats who really don't know their right hand from their left, (and also much cattle)!

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/arti...story-of-banking-control-in-the-united-states

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ormed-is-it-their-much-better-climate.446199/
     
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    you can use the money as wisely as you want, but it doesn't mean they will.
     
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    Meantime, in my country single women are rewarded by additional welfare with each additional child. And we pay very generous welfare, so some women actually regard lots of kids as a salaried career. And here's the thing .. there are still hundreds of thousands of abortions.

    What you guys keep missing, or refuse to factor in, is the human element. Very little of this stuff is about money. Women who are genuinely concerned about money will not risk becoming pregnant in the first place. What you're dealing with is something else entirely.
     
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    All tax cuts are good.
    Big Bad Governments should always be forced borrow to fund the corrupt destructive apparatus.
     
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    "Myth" is a word and is subject to definition.......
    I personally believe that there are some "true myths".... but I am biased from reading so much about parapsychology and I could be incorrect about that.

    Theoretically.......
    the national debt of the USA could be purchased by the city of Calgary, Alberta, Canada through their CalgaryDollars
    .ca/ and they could make a handsome profit off the purchase over the next two or three decades.

    This is no joke.......
    this is a theory..... and I admit that I could be wrong.....
    but I could explain the whole thing to Albertans totally free of charge with the exception of perhaps one loonie just to make it legal.

    Something like this could also be organized through the town of Ithaca, New York through their Ithaca Hours local currency. Do a search for "Worgl, Austria, local money experiment" to get more background information on this general idea.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ada-and-unified-field-theory-of-m-w-p.548225/
     
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    This is essentially true...... virtually all tax cuts are good but....
    it might not be a good idea to reduce Income Tax to zero percent because it is such a useful tool to deal with cases like that of Al Capone!
     
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    yep, the right should be happy about that, less abortions
     
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    tax cuts for the working class and small businesses are good, mega tax cuts for the mega corps and filthy rich, not so much
     
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    interesting thought, could the government sell me the debt and I go bk... poof goes the debt
     
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    I have to agree with that.
     
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    The COTUS should never have been amended to allow an income tax. It is a dangerous tool for political oppression.
     
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    we would not be the country we are today without it

    Russia or China would prob own us
     
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    There are many other ways for governments to generate revenue.
     
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    agree, such as import taxes, federal sales tax, ect... but would that really be more or less tax for the working class
     
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    Government does not need an income tax to give the working class a subsidy. A check would work better than a tax break.
     
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    oh I agree, a 4% cut across the bored benefits the rich, a tax credit of say $5000 would help the economy much more and be cheaper

    and everyone would get it, rich or poor
     
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    No it wouldn't. If the 'poor' wanted money, they'd do something about preserving what they have.
     
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    Yes........ it is .......
    I've read a pretty powerful case that Canada's British North America Act
    indicated that only the provinces could put a tax on income.......
    but the federal government was supposed to follow the example set by
    President Abraham Lincoln.

    I'm no lawyer but some of the articles on this seem to be written by Canadians who are lawyers.....
    and it would sure fit with the Lincoln Greenback Monetary Experiment ending only two years from the creation of Canada through the B.N.A.

    I did a pretty awful job of writing this up as best as I could back in 2004 and quoted what I wrote then in posts # 6, #7 here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...016-and-2004-campaign-writings-as-art.534297/
     
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    This is exactly what some of the best articles on the history of Canadian central banking policy lead me to believe as well.

    https://search.library.utoronto.ca/details?3017347&uuid=468e12c0-cdb8-4671-8d0d-79c902f436d9

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    Second posting CEA paper Post crash macroeconomics:the eclipse of rational expectations monetarism and the need for a new synthesis
    Posted on June 1, 2018by haroldchorneyeconomist
    Chorney, Harold (Concordia University Montreal

    and here again is a link to his 1996 article;

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/arti...ce-our-country-debt-free-say-three-economists
     
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    You might want to read the discussion through that I began over there.... but basically......
    yes... that is theoretically possible.........
    but there are certain people that might not be impressed with just any ordinary person attempting this......
     
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    The income tax is an instrument of political oppression and should be eliminated. If Americans want to give workers a subsidy the USG should cut them another green check. The rich never need a subsidy.
     
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    Local rule with a local monetary system would be a very radical change, but given the failure of so many leviathan nation states that kind of change would be worth a try. Jefferson liked the idea of very small local governing bodies. They often evolve spontaneously when governments are near collapse.
     
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    Central banking is usually a scam. The US managed to beat down the idea until the early 20th century when we got the Federal Reserve Bank and then almost immediately the Great Depression.
     
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    My wife actually "compelled" me to opt for retirement in Ireland 20 yrs. ago. I bought an ancestral estate about 25 yrs. ago when relatives to actually inherited it suffered a financial setback after borrowing $200K to renovate & modernize the 100 yr old parochial house. The offshoring was proposed by my accounting / retirement planning firm a few yrs. ago, but (D)'s in the House did push up my timetable for restructuring.
     
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