German- American relations on absolute low...Merkel and trump have train crash meetiong in the UK

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  1. pitbull

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    The US and the democratic countries of Europe are like a big organism. If any part hurts the whole body suffers. Trump is like a flu. We have to get rid of him!
     
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  2. Sobo

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    How about this, energy politics of Germany are made in Berlin. You will accept this and move on.

    We obviously cant cut ties with Russia. Whenever ties between Germany and Russia were cut in the past, the world felt into wars of unimaginable scale.

    It is important that Germany and Russia always remain at good relations. I hope you agree.
     
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    Adolf Merkel ****** Germany. The sooner that hag is out of politics, the better for the Germans.
     
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    Why? You feel bad for us being the hegemon of Europe? A status we achieved because Merkel.

    It was under Merkels leadership, that Germany transformed from the economic powerhouse it was before to the economic giant it is today.

    Also what you expect? That our enxt chancellor is an american boot licker?
     
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    Based on your logic, every country not currently at war should disband their entire military. No need for any of that since its not currently being used right?

    Can you show where I said Euripean spending would result is lower US spending? I looked and couldnt find it.
     
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    Just wow. This is the true sign of someone that has no clue what's going on in the world. I'm guessing you are a college student.
     
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    Germany, 4th largets economy in the world. Leading in science and technology is threatened by what exactly? Please tell me.

    Please tell me which other nation would love to attack and conquer us. And conquer us for what? We have almost no rescources to sell. We get our profit from our skills and highly skilled and educated workforce.

    Something you cant conquer and use for yourself.
     
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    So what.

    They won't dare give Netanyahu the middle fingers.

    And as long as the USA continues these actions, on behalf of Netanyahu, then that middle finger they give the USA is meaningless. Why??? Well, because they are going to assist the USA right after they put the middle finger down anyway. Face this.
     
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    Except Germany and Russia do not have a relationship based on friendship. It's based entiredly on Russia providing Germany with it's energy needs. Business has nothing to do with personal relationships. If and when Russia decides to raise the price of NG let's see just how friendly the relationship really is. US is no longer providing F-35 training to Turkey because Turkey is planning on buying S400 Air Defense Missiles from Russia. NATO and Russia do not mix. Leave NATO or part ways with Russia's gas. You can't have both.
     
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    How about Russia? You just never know what the future may hold. That's why even the Swiss keep a standing army.
     
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    Why would Russia want conquer Germany? A nation with magnitudes higher economy and technology.
     
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    You just answered your own question. Technology, economic power, and maybe just because they would be an easy target without the US to secure Germanys defense.
     
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    We are russias only big customer. They depend on us, we can buy otehrwise.

    And of course we can have it both. We already have.

    Face reality, NATO would never kick Germany out. We are 2nd biggest economy and provide endless streams of technology. All your tanks cannons are made in Germany for example.

    Plus if we leave NATO what about all the data we have from it?
     
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    I cant be forced to do work according my skills. Thats why you obviously cant exploit Germans for another nation.

    Beside that Germany economic power dwarfs russia so much, the power center would automaticly switch from Moscow to Berlin.

    Why you think Germans see Russia not as a threat?
     
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    A great economy wont stand up to 10 divisions of tanks no matter how many washing machines can be made.
     
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    I did not say anything about nations disbanding their entire military - so how do you figure that this is my logic ? Europe is able to defend itself.

    I didn't say that you said the above. I merely mentioned that if the US had to spend less due to Europe upping their spend that this would not result in the US spending less.

    You said that US not defending Europe would result in lower US spending -this is quite the assumption given the love of our Gov't to spend as much as possible. What ever savings we would get would be spent somewhere else on something equally useless.
     
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    Again, I never said higher spending in Europw would lead to less spending in the US. I said that leaving NATO and the US presence in Europe would result in lower spending. Now, if the govt just shifts that money somewhere else, most likely, that's beside the point.
     
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    The tanks we build are superior to theirs. Actually our new Rheinmetall Cannon is the only one that can smash Putins new Armata tank.
     
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    Not sure what Netanyahoo has to do with any of this - but your claim is false - Europe has done this often. Regardless - this is silliness as Netanyahoo is not messing with European sovereignty.

    What do you mean "So what" ? Stuff like this matters whether or not you realize it.

    France and Germany did not assist the US in the war in Iraq. Germany is not going along with the US request to Drop Nord Stream 2. Italy is going ahead with China's "Belt and Road" - initiative and other EU nations are soon to follow. The EU has taken steps to find an alternative to the USDollar system of international payments - as are Russia and China.

    I can continue if you like but, your claim is false.
     
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    I clarified that you did not say this so why are you belaboring the issue.

    It would result in lower spending in Europe - Agreed
    Not lower Total spending - which was just a point of clarification.
     
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    As learned during WW2, 100 of the best tanks in the world, Tigers, didnt stand a chance agaisnt 1000 of the 2nd or 3rd best in the world, t-42s and Sherman's.
     
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    In the modern world there is a name for tanks. They are called targets.
     
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    We call your aircraft carriers that way. Our Delfin-Klasse submarines in NATO training always manage to breach your security ring and fires test torpedo.
     
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    Yes they are targets too.
     
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    Doubtful.
    Accept it, you are American colony till year 2099. 8)
     

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