Russia to West: D-Day wasnt decisive in ending WW2.

Russia fought WWII. America and Germany won it. America lost under a half million men, less than in our own Civil War, Russia lost 26 millions, close to 1 in3 of their viable male population. To this day most Russian families still have at least one ancestor who died in WWII

 

What countries are they... Albania? Kosovo, perhaps?

Not that there’s anything wrong with being Albanian or Kosovar

 

You're not going to like this but you look Russian to me.

You also look Italian, Balkan, British and are the spitting image of my Uncle from Joisey. White people are the most mixed mutts race on Earth, the only ethnicities you can still tell by looking are Asians and Africans

 

The war in Europe would of ended without D-Day. Once Germany was on the retreat after Stalingrad, that was that for them. D-Day may have been more to stop the Russians than the Germans anyway. If we weren't there, what's to stop them from sweeping through all of Europe?

 

I disagree. He’s definitely look like Kosovar to me!

 

Stalin called it a Second Front and he kept prodding Churchill into opening a Second Front as soon as possible since 1942. D-Day was meant to take the pressure off the Soviet troops fighting the Germans.

 

You're right. I had a Great grand uncle from Carpathia and he looked like that in a photo from the 20's. Though isn't Carpathia part of that area populated by Germans supposedly descendants of the children abducted by the Pied Piper of Hamelin?

 

To this day, most Russian families have at least one rape baby from chinggis Chan.
That was almost 1,000 years ago.

 

But didn't Stalin himself refuse Churchill's plan to invade Europe through the "soft underbelly" of Greece and the Balkans since that would have cut him out of his Eastern European conquests?

Or was that just in the movies?

 

The Mongol yoke didn't have a safe word

 

If I recall, about 8 out of every 11 German casualties were from the Russians.
Without D-day the Soviets would have controlled all of Europe, in short order.
Hitler AND Stalin began WWII, Stalin wanted to end it on his own terms.

 

Technically she's right, D-Day wasn't decisive, there were nine more months of war to go after D-Day before Berlin fell. But I think she's playing the same game liberals do, deflecting attention by redefining events. No one in the West ever claimed that D-Day was decisive in ending the war. It's a significant moment in history, and a major turning point in the war, but it was not decisive and no one suggested it was.

 

I don't think this is true. Without D-Day, the Soviets were completely unable to roll back the German advances. Without American materiel, the Soviets would have been crushed utterly.

 

So if D-Day failed all of mainland europe would be communist and not just eastern europe.

 

Depends what you mean as people.

Its doubtful Hitler would have made it till 1950, lots of internal resistance, as you can see on Stauffenberg. Beside that, Stalin was worse and could have been prevented.

 

Im a Thuringian, central German tribe. Anyways you are on ignore.

 

Wrong,

Beside that, this war was not against nazism. The americans and british had zero problem with all that.

Their problem was a strong Germany as leading economic power. The fun thing is, that after the war was over they gave up that and basicly accepted the status before WW I, to cull back Russia. Germany became europes super power again. Only eastern europe had to suffer.

 

I look like most thuringians do, its central germanics.

Also i think you are wrong, i can definitly see who is a polack, russian or british. I dont know how and sometimes cant even tell, why exactly i know it, but i guess we europeans have some kind of radar for that.

 

It’s a gift, I’m telling yea.

 

You can, yes, but you are born, bred and brought up Thuringian. Americans are conditioned to see so many different sorts that they all just blend together.

OTOH maybe not, Matthew Perry, who had probably never seen an East Asian before he opened Japan in 1857 identified Japanese as upper and lower classes in his first correspondences and said the differences were rather clear. I've known people who lived in Japan for some time and never picked up on that.

 

Conflict, like any other aspect of modern societies, is complex and multi-layered.
What ideological people do is to focus upon as few elements of an issue as
possible.
So.. SOME in England or the USA might not have had a problem with Nazism
(National Socialism - Hitler controlled companies, Stalin owned them.)
Others turned a blind eye the excesses of Nazism.
And many took offense and wanted to fight.
As for taking offense - I suggest the great majority of free people did this.

 

My Dad and five of his brothers all enlisted in Dec. of 1941. They hated Japanese, they hated Hitler. The youngest brother couldn't talk his way in, and he was underage.

Ira Hamilton Hayes' high school cancelled 1942 graduation. Every young man in the senior class had enlisted to fight.

 

i never sayd they didnt help
obviously it did help a fair bit even if the amount lend lease was limited early on and mostly food then
and even if they send only food the entire time it would have helped the russians who can then send more farmers to fight

but my point is that russia would have survived without and won eventually regardless
both stalinggrad and the batle of moscow where won wel before significant help arrived and that was the turningpoint of the war,

obviously americans probably saved millions of live by sending lend & lease since the russians could push faster and keep its population fed

 

Lots of Russian blood in Germany, it is what happens when a country is defeated.
Russians killed 80% of the german troops that died in WW2, but I do not agree that D-Day was not decisive.