Rep.Kevin Brady finally admits tax cuts not paying for themselves!

2018 revenues were higher than 2017

2019 revenues were higher than 2018

You were saying?

 

That tax cuts reduce revenue. Math.

Revenue always increases year over year due to population and economic growth, unless there is a recession. All tax cuts do is reduce revenue, and increase deficits and debt. It happens every single time republicans try it.

 

Because spending went up. Not because revenue went down

 

You mean non-essential employees like those that were to inspect the safety of the Max 7 planes but didn't because of the shutdown? Or road cleaners? Refuse collectors?

And what happened to the infrastructure improvements that Trump promised before the election?

 

But the tax cuts did not reduce revenue.

 

Cut taxes and slash spending even more. There! Problem solved.

Why do you always blame tax cuts for deficits and never blame the wasteful bloated spending?????

 

Why did the GOP not cut spending when they owned ALL government for 2 years?

 

Well one thing is abundantly clear we certainly aren't spending any tax dollars on bringing our country into the 21st century as our antiquated infrastructure rots and decays away.

 

yep, tax cuts for the rich never pay for themselves

tax cuts for the working class on down and small businesses pay for themselves as those people actually spend the money and simulate the economy, the businesses create jobs to sell stuff to get some of that money - trickle up works, trickle down doesn't

 

agree, cut spending on useless wars overseas

course Bush set us on a trend of about 1 trillion a year added to the debt and there is no end to that in sight... the interest alone on the debt will soon surpass all other spending

I would like to know exactly what changed to cause an extra trillion a year in spending under Bush and undo that, the only real change was the bush tax cuts for the rich and the two wars in the middle east

we need to look back to that time and see what changed, and change it back

tax cuts for the rich and mega corps makes no sense when the debt is climbing a trillion a year

we need Tariffs on imports and only offer tax cuts to US companies that hire only Americans - if they use cheap foreign labor, that is there choice, but no tax cut for them

in fact, I would of raised taxes by 10% and gave any company not outsourcing labor a 20% tax cut

the problem is the dollar is not touching enough American hands... it goes overseas from foreign imports and foreign labor

 

Military spending is only about 16% of total federal spending.

Over 60% of total federal spending is on social programs (SS, Medicare, unemployment, disability, welfare, etc.)

 

I don't know. I wanted them to, but they didn't. Both parties spend like drunken sailors.

 

It is not my fault that anti- abort legislators push legislation all the way back to the zygote. Further if you can't figure out that a single cell is not a living human - you will not be able to rationally discuss a clump of cells.

Last - if you do not point out a specific time during the pregnancy - there is no way to have a rational discussion of the issue. If the Fetus achieves sentience even folks - such as myself - who are pro choice will agree that a human exists.

Get a coherent argument - you are all over the map.

 

not all military spending is on the books

interest is almost as much as our social programs

what changed under Bush, why is the debt rising a trillion a year now, what changed?

SS and medicare are paid by a separate tax, we are not getting rid of those, when the program started there was nothing in the fund and they did it for their elderly and disabled, we can do it too

 

total mandatory spending is only about 3 billion

the debt is rising 1 trillion a year - much of this is war on terror spending (much of which is waste)

 

Bush was president only a bit over three months in FY2009. In order for him to have been responsible for the 2009 deficit, he would have had to increased the deficit spending by a factor of ten for those three months. The 2009 budget was passed by the democratic congress and signed by Obama. The 2009 deficit belongs solely to Obama and the democrats.

 

Not all military spending is on wars.

What changed under obama, why did the debt nearly double under obama?

SS and medicare is still a tax. I'm FORCED to contribute to those programs even thought I don't want to.

 

this is a better picture of spending

 

I agree, I am only talking about cutting the waste from military spending...

nothing changed under Obama, it started rising up Bush a trillion a year and continues to this day even under Trump

to fix it, you need to go back to when it started and undo that change

the problem is, we have reduced spending some sense Bush, BUT, interest eats it up

yes, like I was forced to pay for the republicans useless war in Iraq, I would rather my money go to nation build here and support the elderly and disabled here

 

Don't blame me for the fact that you got the number wrong. Now you move the goalposts from discussing the Administration to Congress. Obama was not President while in Congress.

If you want to discuss congress - fine - the 2009 deficit was under the Bush Administration - and it equaled the amount proposed by Bush admin. That budget was not passed - so are you sure Obama voted for it ? Regardless - that was the amount spent. Trump controlled both houses and spent like a princess with a credit card.

The proposed budget for 2009 was for 3.1 Trillion - on revenue of 2.7 T - for a proposed 400 Billion in deficit spending (and this is what it ended up as).

The reason the deficit ended up at 1.4 Trillion is because revenues dropped to 2.1 Trillion due to the crash - (600 Billion) and stimulus spending which was bipartisan. The stimulus spending was 400 Billion 250 was due to TARP - the other 150 was done by Obama.

The idea that Obama was responsible for the 2009 crash and TARP is preposterous nonsense. Even the 150 Billion that did happen under his watch was a function of the crash. What would you have suggested - let the financial system fail ?

Do you have any understanding of what was happening in 2009 ? Seriously - As said previously - you are blaming the guy who showed up after the fires was raging - for using too much water.

 

Here's a better picture of spending. This is TOTAL Federal spending...

 

Sorry not one law on the book pushes it back to the day of conception. The heart beat bill pushes it back to 6 weeks at the earliest. I would accept the pre Roe standard in 38 states of rape, incest, and the mother's health, and life out to 10 weeks, Not because I think it is right but because the overwhelming majority of American's would support such a limit. And restricting the current abhorrent death toll by 92% us a very good first step.

 

Yes, a lot changed under Obama. ObamaCare and other spending increased.

 

and of course that is not all of it, much is off the books, like some military spending, faith based initiatives, ect.....

how many churches are we giving a million dollars too?

"Bush's Faith-Based Initiative Gave Obama's Former Church $1.5 Million"

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...itiative-gave-obamas-former-church-15-million

"Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Ill. – where Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama worshipped for two decades – has received more than $1.5 million in federal tax money since 2003 through the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives"

 

Not sure how I'm moving goal post..I said obama and the dems gave that deficit to us...Obama voted for it, the Dems passed it, Obama submitted another the following year with just as bad deficits. The 2009 deficit was 1.4 trillion.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_States_federal_budget

Trump hasn't spent anywhere close to what Obama and the Dems did.

I agree the Dem Congress set a fire, and a Dem President was handed it.