Trump: I think 'I'd take' foreign help for 2020

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Since when is Russia and China suddenly of your "big friend list" to say it is OK?
     
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    • she certainly did as a matter of fact she did more then accept it she paid for it where in hell do you think that dirt in that Dossier came from
    you willful deliberate ignorance makes you nothing but a partisan hack that would rather look like a fool then admit your double


    There’s no evidence of that.

    And there is the fact that Putin literally hates Hillary Clinton,

    Perhaps you can explain these:



     
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    Tell us how many meeting various Clinton campaign officials had with cut outs, Russian oligarchs and FSB operatives during her campaign.

    Show us the video of Putin, or any other Russian politician cheering for Hillary Clinton.

    Show us which Clinton campaign officials had worked for the Russians before.

    Show us the hacked RNC e-mails that the Russians used to help Clinton.

    Show us the many times Clinton lied about all of that, and obstructed justice to try and cover it up.

    Take you time.

    Until then, we’re not going to take you attempts to derail the thread seriously.

    Whataboutism does not absolve your phony fuhrer from his obvious crimes or his moral treason.
     
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  4. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

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    Trump trolls the beautifully. ::): Schiff really comes across as a jackass for clinging to the Steele dossier doesn't he. :;): The "five eyes" intelligence sharing agreement has been in place for decades, and it's a key component of Comey, Clapper, and Brennans alibi. REALLY noteworthy ... Obama made a very disturbing, and ominous change to that agreement, the day of the 2016 election. NSA/CSA policy [6 - 20] "SECOND PARTY ACCESS" NSA/CSA TS/SCI CLASSIFIED INFORMATION SYSTEM 11/8/2016
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    At least the Dems didn't publicly invite an enemy power to spy on Americans.

     
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  6. struth

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    Not sure what the story is here...the headline obviously doesn't match what the President actually said, which is par for the course. "I think you do both" - "if Norway calls and says they have something on...you listen, there is nothing wrong with listening" - He of course is right, and this what Rep Adam Shifty apparently did. This is the problem of course with hypothetical questions, nobody knows what is gonna happen in the given moment, what the situation is gonna be.
     
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    As I understand it, and posted 2 years ago ... Winer was working with Cody Shearer. Winer acted as a conduit between Shearer and Steele. It was Cody who claimed Russia had a "pee tape" of Trump and Russian whores. Winer passed that "dirt" to Steele.
     
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  8. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no bubble burst here; just a dose of reality for you; you guys dropped the hammer once again and are trying to sweep your lack of actions under the carpet. Concession noted.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What world do you live in ?

    Christopher Steele was private citizen !
     
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    No, she was using a former British intelligence operative, not American. And he was getting info from Russia:

    How good were these sources? Consider what Steele would write in the memos he filed with Simpson: Source A—to use the careful nomenclature of his dossier—was “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure.” Source B was “a former top level intelligence officer still active in the Kremlin.” And both of these insiders, after “speaking to a trusted compatriot,” would claim that the Kremlin had spent years getting its hooks into Donald Trump.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.va...n-dossier-was-compiled-christopher-steele/amp
     
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    I don't have any "side". If you are talking about the Ds, they did NOT do what Trump says is acceptable.

    I absolutely will deny that Clinton did what Trump is saying he would do. No foreign government ever approached Clinton or her campaign and said they had dirt on an opponent. Never. That just didn't happen.

    You are saying that you are OK with any country picking sides in the next presidential election, then using all their state resources to dredge up dirt on one of the candidates, then hand that dirt to the opponent. That is anti-American. If you agree with that, you are anti-American. Shame on you.
     
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    "did this very thing"????? Really????

    Which foreign government approached Clinton's campaign and offered dirt on Trump?
     
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    It seems more like she approached them instead...
     
  14. struth

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    https://www.chicagotribune.com/opin...tion-investigation-russia-20171120-story.html

    With that said...what obvious crimes and "moral treason?" Please let Mueller know...he can't find any.
     
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    You clearly aren't up to date on the news....I get it, the propaganda machine keeps things from their followers: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...s-dnc-contractor-solicited-trump-dirt-in-2016

    A foreign Govt has admitted to helping the Clinton Campaign.
     
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    Which government do you claim she approached?

    Which foreign government has admitted to helping the Clinton Campaign? And don't try to weasel out of this by referring to your link. That link claims that someone who was a "contractor" with the DNC approached the Ukrainian embassy. Not the Clinton Campaign. Not the DNC. Some low-level person with ties to the DNC. There is zero evidence the DNC knew what she was doing, let alone condoned or directed it.

    And the story says that "The Embassy representatives unambiguously refused to get involved in any way, as we were convinced that this is a strictly U.S. domestic matter."

    So, again: Which foreign government has admitted to helping the Clinton Campaign?
     
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    Well, Steele sought out and used Russian government sources... that would be approaching them.

    Also, a Ukrainian court has ruled that Ukrainian officials interfered in our election on behalf of Hillary. So I would say Ukraine helped her, but didn’t approach her. Just interfered on its own.
     
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    That is patently false. The Clinton Campaign did not approach the UK government. You made that up.
     
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    Bureaucrats are not the same thing as the government itself. I'm amazed I have to explain that to you.
     
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    It’s approaching a foreign government. We know Putin wanted to sow discord in the elections. Come on now, it has to work both ways or it doesn’t work at all.
     
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    As I've said repeatedly, if Flynn isn't indicted for his violation, there's ZERO chance any American ever will... There is no action possible that would get this law to be enforced. None.

    This law doesn't exist... Erase it from your memory.

    John Kerry is free to challenge the Trump administration with Iran or any government he chooses to talk with.

    And I openly welcome that now, because at least Kerry has the best interests of the US and the world at heart.
     
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    So if he sits down in a meeting and a foreign citizen starts telling him all the dirty things Biden does, he has to plug his ears or it's a crime?

    K...
     
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    Sorry, they did...they hired a shady law firm, who contacted a shady company with ties to foreign nations that hired a UK spy.

    It's clear the entire false accusations about the Trump campaign and Russia was a distraction from the real crimes.
     
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    That word has been made into a silly joke.
     

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