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Christian florist v. homosexual couple in WA

Discussion in 'United States' started by Le Chef, Jun 6, 2019.

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  1. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    Sure, if you don’t understand English.
     
    rahl, Jun 13, 2019
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  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Do you know what LIKE means?
     
    chris155au, Jun 13, 2019
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did you figure that the more idiotic the post the better the argument or something ?
     
    Giftedone, Jun 13, 2019
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  4. rahl

    rahl Banned

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    Yes
     
    rahl, Jun 13, 2019
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  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If discrimination is OK according tot he law. Obviously.

    You don't get to pick and choose which groups get discriminated against and which services. If the Law accepts discrimination it accepts discrimination. Law works on the basis of precedent. If this principle is accepted - it is a matter of time before some elected group tries to use this principle for what ever end it deems fit.

    Then you go on about gas stations being in Gov't hands - what are you talking about ? - Gas stations are not owned by the Gov't.

    If someone can refuse service to someone on the basis of "religious belief" why not Gas ? You claim to draw the line at essential services but you are not the one in power. Who gets to define essential services ?

    Take "Pizza Guy" for example - If he can refuse to provide Pizza to a gay's because it is for a gay wedding - how is this any different than refusing to provide service to anyone who he thinks is Gay ?

    Folks say - "well the gay fellow can go somewhere else" - the Gas station owner can say the same - or say "gays can just buy electric cars" or any dumb excuse.

    In the Pizza example - which is a real example in case you didn't know - how is food not an essential service ? If one food provided can refuse service to gays - the only pizza shop in a small town - why not the local grocery store in some small town ?
     
    Giftedone, Jun 13, 2019
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  6. Paul7

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    Pot, meet kettle.
     
    Paul7, Jun 13, 2019
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  7. mdrobster

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    No it is called a marriage and to be legal both parties have to sign. This is as simple as it gets.
     
    mdrobster, Jun 13, 2019
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    Quit jumping into a discussion that you know nothing about and spouting insults that you can't back up.
     
    Giftedone, Jun 13, 2019
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    LOL, only you can spout insults, huh? When I want your opinion I'll ask you. Try to keep up, please, I have dozens of posts on this thread.
     
    Paul7, Jun 13, 2019
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  10. Giftedone

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    You were the one that was begging for my opinion - jumping onto a conversation without having a clue what the convo was about with some mindless unsubstantiated insult. I did not insult you.
     
    Giftedone, Jun 13, 2019
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  11. Professor Peabody

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    Thank you for proving to the forum you have no argument, so you resort to childish insults.
     
    Professor Peabody, Jun 13, 2019
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    according to bible it's better to stay unmarried, BUT... better to marry then burn with passion
     
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  13. Professor Peabody

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    Domestic partnerships vary by state.
     
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    Well your link says nothing about domestic partnership, and it certainly doesn't acknowledge gay marriage. Anyways it is a legal contract, seems to be you are trolling again over petty sheet!!!!
     
    mdrobster, Jun 13, 2019
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    ROTFLAMO, he seems to get into these, "I want to stir the pot for no reason moods".
     
    mdrobster, Jun 13, 2019
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    They shouldn’t have to but the goal has always been America is inclusive so our laws have gone in that direction. With the new direction many are wanting to take I say we should abandon the ADA, religious preferences should no longer be accommodated by employers, and landlords should be free to refuse housing to blacks. Sound good?
     
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    Highlight the first word — that is the only institution the clause applies to.
     
    cd8ed, Jun 13, 2019
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    bottom line, are they in business to make money? also, isn't it christian to help others, especially on their special day...
     
    Blaster3, Jun 13, 2019
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    How else would you have one respond to your nonsensical strawman and complete lack of response to the topic.
     
    Giftedone, Jun 13, 2019
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  20. rahl

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    That statute was rendered unconstitutional in obergfell c Hodges. That is not the definition of marriage any longer.
     
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    The 14th amendment incorporated it to the states.

    But his argument fails on its face. Baking a cake, or selling flowers does not prohibit the baker/florist from practicing their religion.
     
    rahl, Jun 13, 2019
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  22. Le Chef

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    No, it applies to all "state actors," especially the several states. This is very, very old news.
     
    Le Chef, Jun 13, 2019
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  23. Le Chef

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    Duplicate post
     
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    Le Chef, Jun 13, 2019
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    Even at the financial expense of a struggling business?

    Who would exercise the freedom to discriminate like this?
     
    chris155au, Jun 14, 2019
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