The Reason China Will Beat America

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    But they didn't vote in large numbers until they aged, voting be an old folks sport.

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    The last Boomers weren't born until the mid-1960s. They didn't vote in significant numbers and percentages until the 1990s.

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    Reagan was elected by pre-Boomers and Reagan marked the beginning of a period where workers no longer got their cut of the pie.

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    Business had--and still have--a financial incentive to replace American workers with either cheap foreign labor and/or increasingly productive machines. Corporations will connive, buy pols, and generally do what they can to get rid of expensive domestic labor. It's a problem that isn't going away.
     
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    The problem has gotten worse over time. I think Democrats have opted to appeal to minorities, women, environmentalists, etc. instead of addressing the disparity problem that would put them in conflict with business and higher income liberals.
     
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    And the Boomers voted for the biggest jackass, Trump. Actually it doesn't take much to tilt an election. The Boomers did change outcomes as they first came on the scene. Remember anti-war protests determined the politics of the 1968 and later elections before the actual vote.

    I would posit that the so called Greatest Generation created the mess as they began the "you're so special" ethic when they brought up the Boomer children. Those of us born during the war had no effect on anything as we were small in numbers.
     
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    If you export jobs to china America becomes a poorer country

    So keep the nobs here even if the products cost more money to consumers
     
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  7. George Bailey

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    Since FDR the West has embraced liberal policies socially and economically assuming there would be no repercussions. The collapse of the Soviet Union has further emboldened the NWO and it has gone into overdrive culminating in a multisexual, multicultural, multireligious milieu with no resemblance to the West. China will never invade the West, nuclear weapons prevent that. But it will win the battle of Civilizations and provide a brighter more prosperous future for their children. No ammount of "liberty, freedom, and equality" will change this. Realism wins.
     
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    I am more concerned with what buying into her loopy proto-fascist delusions is doing to your humanity based on how you dehumanize and belittle those you think are under your station in life or what reading such nonsense has done to your sense of reality.

    Not trying to insult you per say just based on some of what you have written on this site regarding "primitives" and "savages" and justifying the worst in the colonial past. Making people to be "others" with connotations of being subhuman is very dangerous for your well-being and emotional stability.

    Do you think this is good for you?

    Thanks for the invite to your thread on Rand. I will respectfully decline as I have no desire to wade into any of that derangement. It only comes up because you insist on quoting her. Speaking of which, I can quote deterministic gibberish too you know:

    “Phaethon, I will let you pass through those doors, and, once through, you will have at your command all the powers and perquisites I myself possess. The point of my story is simple. The paradox of liberty of which you spoke before applies to our entire society. We cannot be free without being free to harm ourselves. Advances in technology can remove physical dangers from our lives, but, when they do, the spiritual dangers increase. By spiritual danger I mean a danger to your integrity, your decency, your sense of life. Against those dangers I warn you; you can be invulnerable, if you choose, because no spiritual danger can conquer you without your own consent. But, once they have your consent, those dangers are all-powerful, because no outside force can come to your aid. Spiritual dangers are always faced alone. It is for this reason that the Silver-Gray School was formed; it is for this reason that we practice the exercise of self-discipline. Once you pass those doors, my son, you will be one of us, and there will be nothing to restrain you from corruption and self-destruction except yourself.

    “You have a bright and fiery soul, Phaethon, a power to do great things; but I fear you may one day unleash such a tempest of fire that you may consume yourself, and all the world around you.”
    ― John C. Wright, The Golden Age

    See :)

     
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  9. LangleyMan

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    "Jackass" nails it. :)
    I was one of the first Boomers and I was 21 in 1968. We had far more influence as protest agents than voters.
    Boomers are less racist than earlier generations, but I think their personal greed and collective indifference to the plight of poor people is pretty disgusting.
     
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    I think you are correct that boomers complete rejection of values they once held is disgusting. But the move of society away from progressive values that created such prosperity during the 50s and 60s was probably quite deliberately planned by the corporate power elite.
     
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    It's not that I think little of them, I don't think of them at all--too busy living my life to worry about theirs. Obviously, it would be prudent for them to do the same.

    Love the quote, but believe me, it's not mere gibberish.
     
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    You might like the Golden Age trilogy. Really mind-bending tale of the future.

    You loving fanstastical science fiction so, after all.
     
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    I seem to remember Truman being thrown out in 52 as folks opposed his progressive ideas and under Ike economic prosperity achieved. The "progressive" 60s were marked by economic contraction and national degradation.
     
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    Truman wasn't progressive. He was forced onto the ticket by the Democratic powers that be in order to get rid of the real progressive, Henry Wallace who the power brokers could not abide.

    General prosperity of the new deal post war boom did'nt really die out till the stagflation and oil crises of the seventies - even then.........
     
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    Only due to ruthless suppression, which probably isn't sustainable. What is it with all of the love letters to jackbooted authoritarianism lately?
     
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    Truman was a progressive, just not a crypto-communist like Wallace.

    I agree the boom lasted, but it was created by the war, not by the new deal.
     
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    I agree that war created full employment but the new deal put thousands back to work and created growth programs that lasted for decades.

    Wallace was the best agriculture secretary the US ever had and there never would have been a cold war if he had been president.

    Truman was no progressive. He was an architect of the cold war and bombed Japan unecessarily.

    That is why the Democratic bosses got rid of Wallace despite the fact he was hugely popular.

    Crypto-commie.......:hug: lol

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    Bring back $2/hour jobs, pay people $20/hour to do them, and pay higher prices for the stuff they make! They already had $17/hour service sector jobs that weren't subsidized by tariffs or quotas. We sold a lot of what they won't make any longer overseas.
     
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    They're hoping the President will read them.
     
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    If it wasn't deliberate, it was opportunistic and studiously indifferent to worker fortunes.
     
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    That's just not true. They were already in largest voting bloc, in terms of generations, in 1980.

    Now, in the last decade or so one could definitely argue that voter turnout is what has determined the strength of boomers, that's definitely true. Finally, in 2018, their voting hegemony faltered.
     
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    I will agree with the OP purely based upon the simply worded assertion. It's a fact. Everything else is details.

    The US will be the dominant world power or an equal for the next 100 years but we are not going to be a dynasty of 1000 years like the Roman's or the ancient Chinese. We were and are a shooting star of both brilliance and flaws but we will not last. We are too polarized. And it's ok. Look what we've accomplished in just a span of 300 years. But a dynasty? No
     
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    Too polarized?

    How many civil wars and insurrections were fought in the Roman Kingdom/Republic/Empire? How many throughout China's long history?

    The United States may or may not survive this century, but my money is on the former.
     
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    But of course they can never actually discuss the issues raised. That is how a true demagogue and his followers react.
     
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    China takes free-market capitalism to its ugly end. China is what your typical Republican salivates over.
     

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