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Is the Trump impeachment dead?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Jun 22, 2019.

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Is impeachmet dead?

  1. As a dodo

    31 vote(s)
    51.7%

  2. Very unlikely

    12 vote(s)
    20.0%

  3. Impossible to tell

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    11.7%

  4. It still might happen

    7 vote(s)
    11.7%

  5. It will happen, there MUST be something!

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  1. Robert E Allen

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    You mean he wasn't elected by new york and California...
     
    Robert E Allen, Jun 23, 2019
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    That seems vindictive. Prosecute and incarcerate him after he loses, that should be enough.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jun 23, 2019
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    and he's a Republican
     
    Mr_Truth, Jun 23, 2019
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    yes, because they are american people.
     
    Gorgeous George, Jun 23, 2019
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Last I checked they were still Americans. I invite you to eschew any of their food and commerce. You'll pay $5 for your next orange and well over a hundred grand for your next compact car.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jun 23, 2019
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    Yes but they aren't all of the American people.
     
    Robert E Allen, Jun 23, 2019
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    Whilst we can quibble over semantics he didn't recommend any charges.
     
    Reasonablerob, Jun 23, 2019
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    Can a former president be arrested?
     
    The Rhetoric of Life, Jun 23, 2019
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    Doesn't look that way to me. Not interested in "your" "single payer" crap. The premiums would be excessive.
     
    DentalFloss, Jun 23, 2019
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    It would seem that the Dems have finally come to terms with the reality that Republicans will NEVER break with Trump and thus impeachment is off the table for obvious reasons. Pelosi and company have apparently decided they can beat him at the polls and then allow the return to normal justice department function to do its job, which will take care of TrumpCo. instead. Likely that January the SDNY process will begin and the new DOJ will also step in....Uncle Donny gonna spend his time in a federal Maro Lago, with his Kids.
     
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    Yes but unlikely, if anything does happen to Trump it will be like the prosecution of Bill Clinton for tax offences and obstruction of justice. Although unlike Clinton there is no proof of either so far.
     
    Reasonablerob, Jun 23, 2019
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    Aside from your dislike of Trump what do you base that on? All Clinton got was fines and banning him from practicing law?
     
    Reasonablerob, Jun 23, 2019
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    Mostly I base this on pending charges floating in SDNY and obstruction of justice indications being ignored or tabled by the current DOJ and AG. I also tend to review the history of Donald Trump as far as legality in business which makes these issues quite likely. I certainly dislike Trump as I would anyone who cheats people and plays a Mob Boss mentality on my country.
     
    tecoyah, Jun 23, 2019
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    Uh...there aren't any premiums with single payer. If you're talking about taxes they can be taken from excises on the very wealthy.

    But hey, go ahead, vote to bankrupt yourself in order to give more money to people making over 50 million. Most people with common sense aren't going to agree with you. I only wish there were some way we could put you doofuses on your own island where you could give everything but a bare pittance to a few very, very rich people while you starve to fracking death like you all seem to want to.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jun 23, 2019
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    What charges? I saw no charges in the Mueller report and apparently congress didn't either or they would be pressing them
     
    Josephwalker, Jun 23, 2019
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    The "very rich" don't owe me a thing. There are premiums regardless of who is paying them. I'd prefer to pay may own.
     
    DentalFloss, Jun 23, 2019
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    Then congress should bring it on. Put up or shut up. If they feel he committed obstruction of justice they should present their case to the American people and show us what they've got. Obviously they feel they would be embarrassed by what they are attempting to call obstruction or they would do just that.
     
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    You already said that it was the crime of obstruction...didn't know I had to repeat it.
     
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    I said show me the specific crime of corruption and you have failed to do so. Once again what exactly did Trump do to obstruct justice that you consider an impeachable offense. Fire somebody? Call the investigation a witch hunt? What exactly?
     
    Josephwalker, Jun 23, 2019
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    Completely misrepresenting the report isn't just semantics. It is typical Trumpian disregard for reality.
     
    yardmeat, Jun 23, 2019
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    There are a wide range of reasons to open an impeachment investigation. From obstruction to violation of the emoluments clause to violating campaign finance laws. I am well aware that you will not agree with any, so my listing them is a waste of my time. No - I'm not running away from my stance, I just see no need to rehash what has been discussed over and over.
     
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    Not at all. They are aware that the Senate is about as firmly in Trump's pocket as I can recall any Senate being in any President's baleful thrall in history. They know they have no chance whatsoever of bringing Trump to justice if they try to do so now no matter how good a case they may have. Indeed, it will probably just contribute to Trump's possible re-election among low-info independents who are susceptible to Trump's inevitable cries of fake news and witch hunt if he is acquitted by these traitorous toadies. Under these circumstances it is blatantly ingenuous for Republicans to call for his impeachment and should be seen as just one more indication of how dishonest and vicious the present day Republican Party has become.
     
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    Specific examples of what exactly constitutes obstruction or any other charge against Trump are never explained by you or anybody on your side. All we get are these blanket statements. Obviously you have nothing you can point a finger at and say there it is. That's what Trump did that he should be impeached for.
     
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    Well, the SDNY has already ordered Trump to disband his charity whilst it considers charges
     
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    This SDNY?

    Thanks to Trump, the liberal 9th Circuit is no longer liberal - The ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../thanks-trump-liberal-ninth-circuit-is-no-longer-liber...
    Feb 28, 2019 - President Trump and conservative commentators routinely mock the U.S. Court of ... These new judges follow several 9th Circuit judges who were among ... rates in recent history, which a New York Times review in early 2017 ...
    Trump reshapes long-liberal 9th Circuit, as Republican-appointed ...

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reshapes-9th-circuit-gop-judges-near-majority
    Apr 2, 2019 - At this time last year, 16 judges on the 9th Circuit were appointed by ... left-leaning outcome goals in New York or Miami is very likely to get a ...
    Trump Gets a 4th Judge Appointed to 9th Circuit | National Law Journal

    https://www.law.com/.../2019/03/.../trump-gets-a-fourth-judge-appointed-to-ninth-circui...
    Mar 26, 2019 - Bridget Bade testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee during her confirmation hearing to be a U.S. circuit judge for the Ninth Circuit, ...
     
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