Is the Trump impeachment dead?

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Is impeachmet dead?

  1. As a dodo

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  2. Very unlikely

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  3. Impossible to tell

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  4. It still might happen

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  5. It will happen, there MUST be something!

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Impeachment is a political process not a legal one and if congress could present a credible case for it to the American people the sentence would be forced to go along as citizens if America said Trump's behavior is unacceptable and he has to go. If congress had a string case to make that would convince voters and if they had incontrovertible evidence he committed a crime the Senate would have no choice but to convict. Public opinion is what these politicians live for
     
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    So is that what you want impeachment charges based on?
     
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    I'm well aware of these leftist sites calling for impeachment. I'm asking what congress would use to impeach that the American people at large would say yeah, that is unacceptable and the president has to go. Sorry but things like firings and calling the investigation a witch hunt aren't going to cut it.
     
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    The Republican Senate won't be forced to do fracking feces. These traitorous sycophants have tied themselves irrevocably to Trump and realize they now rise and fall along with their tin god. Impeachment, paradoxically, may be Trump's and their only chance to save themselves and some may even see that rescue as being forever, since I'm convinced they expect and would support Trump making them as superfluous, but also as not tied to public opinion, as the Emperors made the Republic's Senators in ancient Rome.
     
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    The things listed weren't firings and accusations, they were specific instances, exactly what you asked for.
     
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    None of which amount to obstruction of any other crime in my opinion and in the attorney generals opinion and apparently in the opinion of Congress since they are pursuing none of them.
     
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    Politicians live and die by public opinion and if Congress presented evidence of obstruction that convinced America of trumps guilt the Senate would throw him under the bus.
     
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    what? he can resign anytime to avoid impeachment... his choice, Nixon choose to resign

    we need to impeach to prevent other presidents in the future from pulling a Trump
     
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    We need to prevent other parties from foisting this kind of politard on us.

    One way of doing that might be to boycott the Pubs for a decade or two. If it becomes known that putting up an idiotic tyrant will result in your party going the way of the Federalists and the Whigs it might be that major parties would no longer allow themselves to become refuges for extremists of either side.
     
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    With all due respect Male Bovine Fecal Matter. The present Republican Senate takes positive pride in how much they can trample on the will of the people. Many have spent the last 30 months trying to convince us that the Popular vote is a mere bagatelle in American politics and that most of us actual people are not entitled to any say as to Presidential selection in favor of rocks, trees and empty fields
     
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    the problem is, when things start to get better, dems don't vote, then we get people like Trump

    right now the country is divided 50\50, so the extremist are waging the dog
     
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    I think maybe that won't happen again for at least a decade. We have learned our lesson, for now.

    And the division is more like 40 /60 or even 70/30. Polls have always indicated a Democratic majority and a non-prejudiced bias. It isn't that the average person is a "sjw' or even "woke". People just understand that if you allow wholesale and blatant bigotry it can rather easily turn about and bite you in your own ass.
     
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    You called for something, I provided it and you say it's not enough . If the listed offenses don't amount to obstruction of justice there is no such offense.

    I realize you think Trump is above the law because he's MAGA but I think most Americans find that pernicious in the extreme.
     
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    I hope it continues to be fervently sought after on the fumes of "keep hope alive" among the talking head yak yakkers and the MSM. If the house introduces articles that would be even better.
     
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    I hope, but 6 years under Obama of the right being the party of "NO", made many think their vote did not mater and did not vote
     
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    yes, but they are some of the american people.:dizzy:
     
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    the only problem with that is the Gerald Ford syndrome.:frustrated:
     
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    The republican are very good at voter suppression too. I live in NC and I couldn't vote for the first time in my life because of the voter id law. I was laid up sick and couldn't get an id from the NC DMV.:evil:
     
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    You left out at least 1 other option.
    That being, it has never been a serious option.
    Nor will it be. Unless something definite comes up that makes McConnell stop being a lap dog.
     
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    Everyone knows, they want to limit voters to white males, as their goal.
     
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    yep, they know they can't win without cheating.... Sad!
     
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    Yes they are, and just the people in those two states can pretty much win any election they want and therefore force the rest ofvthe country to do their bidding. That is why we have a republic not a democracy. To keep from a tyrannical majority which is exactly what the left is looking to achieve.
     
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    Impeachment, the Democrats might be stupid enough to try. Removal, no way.
     
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    Had you registered to vote in NC? How did you do that without an ID and why didn't you just get one then? And if you had proof of residency you could have voted provisional I'm sure.
     
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