Pro choice people eventually become pro life

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  1. Josephwalker

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    I'm saying what you are saying while trying to hide from what you are saying . Your problem not mine. Speak plainly and say exactly what you mean if you dare.
    You say women don't have unnecessary late term abortions so you are fine with late term abortions. Your caveat of "unnecessary" means at some point you too are against unnecessary late term abortions. Welcome to the 92%.
    If you care to rephrase and clarify your position and say you are ok with late term on demand abortions now would be the time.
     
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    You logic is convoluted and false

    Let us look at the reasons for late term abortions (third trimester) and they are almost invariably for foetal abnormality incompatible with life

    Why would anyone object to that?
     
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    And are you then comfortable with the “post birth abortion” supported by republican states? (Post birth abortion:what an oxymoron invented by a moron - trump)
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    And by on the same team, you mean keeping the government out of our business, right?
     
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    I certainly don't but even you say "almost" always. What is your problem with a law that protects the very few healthy babies who's delivery would not risk the health or life of the mother? Why risk even one unnecessary late term abortion? Sad to say there are bad people in the world that will do bad things and unfortunately only laws will impede them from doing these bad things.
     
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    I do not believe that abortion up until birth is fine and it doesn’t happen unless the mothers life is in danger so stop creating silly scenarios that don’t exist. No it is not a zygote until that point. It starts as a zygote then becomes an embryo then becomes a fetus and then it is born and becomes a child. If you think a zygote or an embryo or fetus that weighs 1/10 of an ounce is a living baby, then remove it and raise it
     
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    You’re making up a fact...The vast majority of pro-choice people become anti-chocolate I heard
     
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    Apparently you couldn't find a statistic that contradicted my 92% number and now wish to change the subject.
     
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    Do you know of any woman who has had a late term abortion with a healthy fetus and a healthy mother? What you are saying is because there might be some bad people in the world we should impose the laws on everyone and deny women’s reproductive freedom
    Because there are men who impregnate women and leave I think we should force meant to have vasectomies if they don’t support their children (sarcasm alert)
     
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    Only 8% of people think late term on demand abortions should be allowed. Do the math.
     
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    So you are one of the 8% that think late term on demand abortion should be legal. That's fine and I respect your opinion but I disagree with it
     
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    Same team means exactly what I previously stated. At some point between conception and birth 92% of people become anti abortion.
     
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    Yet they would be pro-choice at the same time - since there is always more than one fetus in the world.
     
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    Did you miss this?

    Daniel Light said:
    You started this thread with the intent of trolling anti-abortionists ... don't know why you suddenly don't want to play a game you started. Whatever.
     
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    You are trying to make it sound like a healthy woman decides at the last minute to abort a healthy fetus. It doesn’t happen so take your false scenarios elsewhere.It really shows contempt for women. I bet you never heard of one woman who did that. I have worked in abortion clinics and have never seen that. I did have a friend who is in the seventh month aborted because her fetus had it brain outside it’s skull. I guess you would have forced her to carry it for the last three months so it could die within a minute. I disagree with you but I do not respect your opinion
     
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    If 92% of people become anti-abortion there would be no problem overturning roe v Wade.Thank goodness most people do not believe such an irrational Statistic, most people are smart enough to realize that isn’t true
     
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    Your avoidance is noted. You seem to think that the world has one fetus at a time. Sorry, dude. Reality says no. A pro-choice point can always point to women who are at a stage where they can make a choice. One fetus' development does not change that. There is no point in time where a pro-choice person suddenly abandons pro-choice for all women.
     
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    Daniel Light said:
    You started this thread with the intent of trolling anti-abortionists ... don't know why you suddenly don't want to play a game you started. Whatever.
    Once again if no woman ever wants to abort a healthy baby late term then what harm is a law simply staying if a woman ever wants to abort a healthy baby in a normal pregnancy she can not do so? Just can't answer that can you.
     
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    Just because you don't like a statistic does not make it untrue. Once again if you have evidence to the contrary feel free to share it.
     
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    Which means nothing. I am anti-abortion. I think it is horrible and no one in my family has had one. That doesn't mean that I would ever allow the government to force my beliefs onto others in the way of laws. That makes me pro-choice. You are only on my team if you oppose government overreach.
     
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    Sorry but you took yourself out of the conversation when you admitted you were trolling. Too bad because only a very few in here even care to try and argue against the basic obvious truth of the OP and now I have one less opponent in an already slim field.
     
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    Are laws against murder, rape and robbery government interference and overreach?
     
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    If we were all in agreement, why would you have to move the goal post from abortion to murder/rape/robbery? I appreciate your attempt to show common ground. Unfortunately, there is still a lot of real estate in between.
     
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    :applause::applause:

    Bolding above, mine. :applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Your claims are not supported by your source. Regardless - the article you cite is an fallacious appeal to the stupidity of the raging masses.
     

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