China is erasing its border with Hong Kong

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Wait ... I will take Microsoft Paint and make a picture to understand, ok?

    t was my full intention to post and write it the way I did, because I wanted to provoke just as much a reaction as it came from you!
    However, I had not expected the reaction from you, but from another member and hoped!

    Now understood?

    BTW ... I'm not interested in the BS in Hong Kong at all and I do not care about it!
     
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    I'll take your word for it, but maybe German sarcasm is lost in translation. It would help if there was a <s> </s>, j/k or ;-) somewhere. :)
     
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    It was no trap thought for you to go in... ;-)
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, just like the Jews were in Germany.

    Guess we should have shut up about that too.
     
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    Yeah... but you got to be kidding me that somebody's opinion is that the US should have one and the same federal law, except 1 city who should have it's own way. I do not know a country in the EU who got something like that. So out of a western perspective as well,... that's a really weird opinion.
     
  6. Mandelus

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    O .... again a hint to the evil Nazis ... because serious arguments are dead?
    Aside fact that your and all other allied governments were by proof well infoirmed since 1942 what was going on in Nazi Germany with the Jews and gave a crap on it...

    there are so many examples where these evil Chinese behavior and acting is a rediculous issue in comparsion ... but where you shut up and closed your eyes with a shrug about! Remembering Ruanda?

    More importantly ... to stay with the topic:

    That's what the Chinese are doing here, that's been well known for at least 5 years ... so why did you shut up for 5 years and now, all of a sudden, it's an issue where you have a trading war etc with China, eh?

    Sorry ... but you have to be very ignorant to not get a laughing stock because of this hypocrisy of the USA!
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    On what do you base this analysis?
     
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    Why is Hong Kong now 3% of China's GDP where it used to be 25% and why is the rest of China experiencing explosive growth while Hong Kong seems to be the same? In fact, given those numbers why does China even want Hong Kong back. Something doesn't add up here.
     
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  9. Mandelus

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    Some hook on the Nazi Party Nazi Party ...

    Antional Socialist German Workers Party = National Socialist German workers party ... that they are socialist = lefty!

    But they ignore the fact that this is only one of the most important voter group - the industrial workers! Looking for the complete Party Program and the deeds of the Nazis, there is no "socialist" left ... and for that new socialists / communists are racists!
     
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    Similar to autonomous regions which are semi-independent.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_communities_of_Spain
     
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    The citizens of Hong Kong have personal freedoms from governemt that the masses in red china do not have

    Therefore Hong Kong is a threat to the oppressive dictatorship that rules china
     
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    I agree the Japanese actions in China were some of the worst attrocities ever committed. One story in particular hit me, about a young pregnant girl in her teens who had Japanese soldiers repeatedly stab her womb with their bayonets then gang rape her while she died of bloodloss. Absolutely the worst of the worst kind of stuff.

    Mao's China was a complete and utter disaster for thr Chinese people also, but in different ways. Is it worse to kill and rape a pregnant teen or have that a million of those teens starve to death because all the food has been reallocated to cities?

    Interesting question, thankfully neither the Japanese or Mao control China.

    Unfortunately, Xi does and he rules for life.
     
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    You can strive for many things ... but it all depends on how you do it ... and how far you are in a position to do it.
     
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    But do they and are they?

    The film does not seem to indicate that there is a problem with Chinese escaping China to live in Hong Kong, and again, why is Hong Kong not growing while the rest of China explodes?

    My understanding is that China, while certainly not very free at all, is still much better off than they were. They have cars and many Western comforts
     
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    Right ... and is it in the West in general ... ie USA, Europe etc. ... to make a rating at all and demand democracy from less friendly countries ... if we close our eyes to similar countries, who are our friends?
     
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    Far too many liberals in America and Europe do not even see the reason they should support HK instead of the dictatorship in beijing
     
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    Do they what?

    Have more freedom?

    Absolutely

    Thanks to the british legacy Hong Kongers have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly

    None of which exists in china

    Whick makes Hong Kong and eyesore to the dictatorship in china
     
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    The history of leftism it has always been about taking power and hording it.
    Thats what they do every time. It's about overthrowing tradition. That's why leftist governments always suppress their people.
    Every single damn time.. just read history that's all you have to do. No analysis necessary. Read history and use common sense.
     
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    Mac .... I'll put it this way:

    Why are you interested in what's happening in Hong Kong ... and why are you shrugging at other, similar things in the world ... especially when they happen in more friendly countries?
     
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    Because china is the number one threat to the relatively democratic society we have made on the West

    The rights of individuals matter in America and Germany and I want ot to stay that way
     
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    Americans care about freedom. We think everyone in the world has the right to be free therefore no government has the right to dictate how people should live.
    Government not allowing freedom irks Americans.. too bad it doesn't irk anyone else.
     
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    we know that the more successful china is at stamping out freedom the more endangered our freedoms are
     
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    China Uncensored weighs in on Hong Kong


     
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    hongkong never had democracy, under british rule all its governor were from England/scottland appoint by the British government. They never allow hongkong to elected their own governor from local Chinese. furthermore, hongkong citizen were treated it as 2nd class citizen as late as 70s by brit.
     
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