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Alabama woman charged in her unborn baby’s death, cops say another woman pulled trigger

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  1. Xenamnes

    Xenamnes Banned

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    She was the one who decided to not only initiate, but also continue the physical assault to the point where deadly force was legally warranted against her.
     
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    A police investigation determined that Jones was at fault for the death of the unborn child because she allegedly initiated the fight over the baby's father, the report said. Police said Jemison was acting in self-defense.

    The shooter was initially charged with manslaughter, but a grand jury failed to indict her, AL.com reported. A Jefferson County grand jury indicted Jones on a manslaughter charge. She was transferred to Jefferson County Jail where she is being held on a $50,000 bond.

    Read the article before posting snarky comments and looking foolish people
     
    RP12, Jun 28, 2019
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    she was forced to abort against her will, if you think that was a baby, why do you support the shooter killing a baby, what did the fetus do to them?

    charging the shot pregnant women with murder is disgusting and sad
     
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  4. Egoboy

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    No... that's looking back after the fact... At the time, she was a dumb pregnant girl in a fight...
     
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  5. Nunya D.

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    If it was a live child that was killed while standing next to the person that physically attacked another person to the point where the other person needed to act in self-defense, would you believe it was the attacker that was guilty of manslaughter.....or the person that was defending themselves against the attacker?
     
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  6. Xenamnes

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    The individual who initiates the crime is charged with whatever deaths occur as a result of the crime. That is a basic staple of united states law.
     
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    That's not remotely the same thing.... Every state will charge the drunk driver with MS in that situation, or should...

    Look, I'll grant that Woman A cannot walk away from this scott-free, but Manslaughter is a ridiculous overcharge, especially when Woman B wasn't charged at all...
     
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    The shooter was initially charged with manslaughter, but a grand jury failed to indict her, AL.com reported.

    A short article...

    I have little faith in any of you at this point.
     
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  9. Nunya D.

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    It will likely be pleaded down to Criminal Negligence, which is a more appropriate charge. Woman B was initially charged, but the Grand Jury felt she acted in self-defense.
     
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    Don't care about the hypothetical, I don't think it is correct to charge the woman that was shot with manslaughter, assault fine.
     
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    Did her decision to commit felony assault directly lead to the death of the fetus? Did her commission of assault against another motivate the use of deadly force?
     
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    Whatever... charges that didn't stick.... I took a short cut...

    Sounds like the police/prosecutors had a tad of egg on their faces when they couldn't get a ham-sandwich-indicting grand jury to indict a woman who unquestionably shot another woman and killed her baby...

    Ouch...
     
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    Maybe reckless endangerment as well??
     
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    All good questions.
     
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    Ebony Jemison was found to have shot Marshae Jones in self-defense. In that case, Marshae was attacking Ebony; she was deliberately putting her fetus at risk.

    I'll admit I'm a bit uncomfortable with the charge myself but I do see the reasoning behind it. Also, considering what momma there looked like much less the way she was acting, this may have been a mercy killing; poor kid would have been better off raised by wolves than Marshae.
     
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    Link to her being charged with felony assault??
     
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    That's fine with me.
     
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    And that's reckless endangerment.... almost the textbook definition....
     
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    Ah yes took a short cut.. Come running into a thread without reading the article and then posting a snarky comment and then complaining someone was not charged when they were.

    Then in the above you leave out she was defending herself from assault.. We all know why.. in some warped way you are trying to justify your nonsense.
     
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    My "nonsense" is that this is a ridiculous overcharge... End of story... There are valid potential charges against her that we've covered...

    And if the prosecutors had originally thought she was defending herself from assault, they wouldn't have charged her with manslaughter, would they have??
     
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    "Woman B was defending herself against a fetus??"

    /facepalm
     
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    and it's also law that a women can have an abortion and can not be charged with murder for it.... this is misusing the law and twisting it because of the abortion debate... it's political

    this is sick that they even charged her with murder for a aborted fetus when she was forced to have the abortion
     
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    Well, you are the one that said this:

    The woman caused her own "forced abortion". The other woman was just acting in self-defense. Unless you believe the pregnant woman was intentionally attacking the other woman for the purpose of having a voluntary abortion.....
     
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    Its a case of self defense and you want to rant about abortion?
     
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    nope, the person that shot her caused the abortion

    if she choose to abort, that is legal, so no murder charge either, so either way this is wrong
     
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