Trump meets Kim in DMZ, becomes first sitting US president to step into Hermit Kingdom

"With wide grins and a historic handshake, President Trump became the first sitting U.S.leader to set foot in North Korea when he took 20 steps into the Hermit Kingdom on Sunday."

"The event in the Demilitarized Zone — which also included a roughly 50-minute meeting behind closed doors — marked a return to face-to-face contact between the two leaders after talks broke down during a summit in Vietnam in February."

"Speaking to reporters afterward, Trump said that the two leaders had agreed to revive talks on the pariah nation’s nuclear program.

The president said, "speed is not the object" in trying to reach a deal but noted he believes both sides want to get the job done."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-us-north-korea-resume-nuclear-talks

Who knows if Kim Jong Un will ever agree to give up his nuclear program, but there is a better chance if they are talking than if they are not.

I'm glad to see Trump is still trying.

Thoughts?

 

I agree that Trump has done the right thing in this meeting. He is showing NK some respect, and that always helps in diplomacy.

 

Trump is a traitor for meeting with Kim. Obama Was a savior meeting with Castro. How amusing and ironic from our trusting friends in the MSM, news we’re supposed to take serious?

 

If he is a traitor for meeting Kim, what is he for meeting Bibi and arranging for Trump Heights in Golan?

What is Bush 43 for going in with Tony Blair as described in the Downing Street Memo?

 

Trump is bending over backwards to get this done and I respect his efforts. It may be a lost cause but if we are ever forced into military action with NK nobody will be able to say Trump didn't try a diplomatic solution.

 

After seven decades of US State Department failure somebody has the guts to try something different.

 

Lowering the US Presidency to the level of brutal third world dictator is not an accomplishment.

Particularly if the understanding up front is that there is no agenda, no objectives, and no outcome.

The only outcome Trump wanted was some images that could be trumpeted to his tabloid focused base on Fox and in the trashy tabloid blogs.

That’s all. He accomplished nothing. And he made it clear he didn’t expect to accomplish anything.

And, as this thread makes very, very clear, Trumpsters will settle for an image on TV, and never care whether anything actually gets done.

 

Objective is continuing diplomacy and showing respect in the culture in question opens doors.

 

I remember when Obama offered to meet Khamenei in Iran.

People like you objected to the fact that there was no precondition for this meeting.

What are the preconditions required by Trump to meet Kim three times?...... without any results.

 

Well, thanks for making my point.

There was no concrete objective at all.

Trump got his photo op.

So did Kim Jong Un. Trump lowered himself again and got nothing in return.

There are no ongoing talks with North Korea, and standing on the border isn’t cultural recognition. It’s pandering for a photo op.

Trump panders well. Just ask Vladimir Putin.

 

Don't bring up Obama and Iran. He was their stooge. Some of the preconditions should have been don't take our sailors hostage and don't send billions of dollars on a plane in the middle of the night and hope no one notices.

 

And we have the first one that wants war with NK.

 

Why does everyone mention that payment when it's been sp throughtly debunked for years? That was their money that the US has kept, illegally, for decades.

 

What was Obama's strategy for North Korea? Obviously, whatever it was did NOT work...Obama pandered to everyone including Putin...remember the "I'll have more flexibility after the election" comment? What did THAT mean? Didn't the DNC, Hillary and the Obama corrupt regime BUY lies from the Russians to influence an election? Yeah, Obama and Vlad were simpatico...

 

Are you offering to sign up for the war?

 

Then why was it so secretive? The US had had the money. Why did they feel the need to send it back then? There is something wrong with that...coincidentally 4 American prisoners were released on that very day...

 

Probably because people were going to be against it no matter what. If we bargained away Iranian money that we were holding in exchange for US prisoners, I would call that a win.

 

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.

 

So you dont want peace with NK, or you so partisan that you prefer war to Trump getting credit for peace. Which one is it?

 

I didn’t object with Obama meeting with anyone as long as he put our interests first. He didn’t. With Iran he just gave away the farm. Handed them a bunch of money with the promise they won’t develop weapons. And now 10 yrs later it’s amazing how quickly they were able to ramp up production the day the claim we broke the deal. How’s that possible if they were supposed to kill the program? A deal NOT signed by anyone except Obama. Not Congress. Nothing official. So Obama did it for Obama and no one else. It certainly didn’t help us because look at where we are.

 

So what would you do then?

 

This is the pre-chewed message that the Trumpsters keep repeating.

There was a multilateral agreement with Iran, which Trump tore up only because it was signed by Obama.

All the other signatory nations, all of whom have been unwavering allies of the United States for 100 years, have condemned Trump's action.

And of course, you are one of those who believe that Trump will get NK denuclearized...

 

Every word of your post is false.

Obama had no diplomatic objective for North Korea.

And if you call concluding a comprehensive agreement to end a nuclear weapons program, an agreement that was hailed by virtually every major nation on earth, and one that held until Trump unilaterally broke it, pandering............

The business about the DNC Hillary and Obama BUY lies is idiotic and nonsensical. It is also based on nothing.

Obama’s attempts to reason with Putin ended the day Putin invaded Crimea.

After that Obama I posed sanctions and even closed Russian safe houses in New York, Maryland and San Francisco.

At exactly the same time, the Republican Presidential candidate’s campaign was in regular and frequent contact with officials and agents of Russian intelligence, he was trying to get the Russian dictator to support a hotel deal in Moscow (even going as far as offering a $50 mill bribe during an election campaign), and promising to undermine the US sanctions.

Trump would almost immediately try and repatriate the safe houses, and has worked consistently to undermine and try and cancel the sanctions.

All of this is fact, and is very well documented.

So, you have no leg to stand on when you repeat the right wing talking point about Obama being “more flexible”/

Because the flexibility came from your fuhrer, the man the Russians own.

 

Ignore Kim Jong Un.

He has his bomb. He has his missles. He has no intention of giving them up.

Rewarding bad behavior by elevating their status gets you nothing, as the history of the Trump administration’s slap dash no foreign policy makes clear.

If reunification is on the table (it is not),the we should leave it up to the Koreans, with our support and participation (you can rest assured that the Russians and the Chinese will be involved).

 

My thoughts are that Trump is slowly trying to melt that ice cube and take small constant steps rather than hammer out a deal in one sitting. It's a smart approach and maybe he will eventually get somewhere with it.

I hope Trump puts an official end to the Korean War. That would be a great step to achieve.